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Re: Frames and accessibility: opinions please

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:33:25 -0400 (EDT)
To: Jim Byrne <j.byrne@gcal.ac.uk>
cc: W3c_Access <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0204241431380.21751-100000@tux.w3.org>

I wouldn't use frames because of the problems that they cause for
bookmarking. If I really thought people knew how to make them work I would -
but I would make sure that there was a good noframes section that meant
people could live with or without them. I saw a good example of this when I
was looking for a cheap hotel, but I forget where it was now <sigh/>.

I expect the frames thing to be solved in about 5 years, which would be nice
- the idea is pretty useful.



On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Jim Byrne wrote:


  I am some accessibility advice to an organisation designing a Website aimed
  at people with learning difficulties and those supporting people with
  learning difficulties. The designers want to build the site based on using
  Frames for navigation - quoting the W3c guidelines saying that they can be
  made accessible. For all the reasons I have listed on my site (see
  http://www.mcu.org.uk) I don't think this is a good idea - but I am keen to
  hear what people on this list think of frames and accessibility.

  If your were building a Website from scratch, that had to be accessible -
  would you use frames? If not why not?


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