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Re: Fw: [webwatch] Fw: [htmldesigners] What's the difference visually?...

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 10:18:31 -0500 (EST)
To: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, <cturne@essex.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0112091015120.14861-100000@tux.w3.org>
Yes, what happens for a mouse user is that they click on the box (equivalent
in explorer to alt-down arrow) and then scroll up und down the list until
they have selected the item tehy want, at which point they release.

Usually there is no visual difference - the following button is often
provided, but a javascript frees the user from having to click it.

I think that the problem is not with HTML, but with browsers that force an
onChange event to be fired when you try to select with the arrow keys,
instead of waiting for you to move out of the combobox before registering
whether you have changed the selected item.

I don't know how many browsers have this problem, although I have noted it is
a common experience for users of Jaws with IE.


Charles McCN

On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, David Woolley wrote:

  > > kind of comboboxes which only activate when you press some button
  > after
  > > them, as opposed to the ones which activate as soon as you press
  > cursor
  > > down.  I mean what would a mouse-user do with these different kinds of

  This sounds like a case of Document Object Model (popularly called
  JavaScript) onchange events being used.  The change wouldn't be
  recognized until the mouse button was released.  It's not an HTML
  problem, but a designer problem (designing only for clicking with a

  Plain HTML will not do this.

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