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Re: Popular Accessible Sites Request

From: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:00:21 -0400
Message-Id: <200107141549.LAA2393209@smtp2.mail.iamworld.net>
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
At 10:14 AM 2001-07-14 , Kelly Ford wrote:
>Hey Davey,
>
>Can you define what you mean by accessible here?  I know of several
>popular sites that I would classify as very usable from an accessibility
>perspective.  But I doubt any of them would achieve full compliance to the
>WAI or other accessibility guidelines or standards.
>

AG::

I hope the way you rephrased the question, sites usable enough to have
developed a following, is the sense in which Davey asked the question.
This is
the Wall Street definition of accessibility.  What the market will bear;
something where the there is gain enough to outweigh whatever pain you
suffered, so that you _will_ still return again and again.

The market valuation of Internet companies like Yahoo is based in large
measure
on their having gained a following.  So it's good to know there are some sites
that are usable enough to have gained a following among people with
disabilities.

Traffik.com Portals FAQ:

<http://www.traffick.com/story/07-2000-portalfaq.asp#what>http://www.traffi
ck.com/story/07-2000-portalfaq.asp

And it does help to know what some of them are, so we can rub designers' noses
in them.  "Here, see?  It can be done."

There's a conundrum that goes with the guidelines.  If a site or page flunks
the guidelines, you can't always find the user for whom it is unusable.
But if
a site or page is unusable, you can generally find the guideline that, had
they
followed it, the page would be usable.  Go figure.

_Web Content is Intrinsically Semi-Formal Stuff._ (SM)  This is both the
strenth of the Web and the challenge in terms of automating the checking of
Web
Content.   Even reducing the criteria to one line in the sand.

Al

SM: SloganMark.  Anybody who tries to commercialize this with a ServiceMark
registration must recognize there is Prior Art in the Public Domain.

>
>
>On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, Davey Leslie wrote:
>
>> Strange question:
>>
>> Does anyone know af any  general news sites or portals that are both
>> accessible and popular with folks using assistive technologies? I don't
mean
>> sites that focus on issues related to people with disabilities; I mean
>> general topic sites that are accessible and, so, popular among people with
>> disabilities. Is anyone maintaing a good favorites list?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> --
>> Davey Leslie
>> davey@inx-jp.org
>>
>>
>>
>  
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