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Re: 10.4 Re: Checkpoints 10.4 and 10.5

From: Aaron Smith <aaron@gwmicro.com>
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:53:35 -0500
Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010531105241.02331ae0@mail.gwmicro.com>
To: "Steven McCaffrey" <SMCCAFFR@MAIL.NYSED.GOV>, <charles@w3.org>
Cc: <poehlman1@home.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, <graham_oliver@yahoo.com>, mike@gwmicro.com
Has anyone reviewed the results with Window-Eyes? (http://www.gwmicro.com)


At 11:15 AM 5/31/2001 -0400, Steven McCaffrey wrote:
>Hello Charles:
>
>      Good question.  I don't want to generalize, so let me just give an 
> example that does work.  The example in section 11.2 of the
>HTML Techniques for Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0 works 
>fine.  I hear
>"First name colon edit"
>then I hit tab and hear:
>"Last name colon edit"
>which is fine.
>The snipet for the first name is:
>
>    <LABEL for="firstname">First name: </LABEL>
>    <INPUT type="text" id="firstname" tabindex="1">
>
>Note my comments above are not about grouping form controls which is the 
>main point of 11.2.  I am just commenting on the label element.
>
>
>Steve
>
>
> >>> Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org> 05/31/01 09:50AM >>>
>If they have labels (using the label element) does this improve things?
>
>Charles McCN
>
>On Thu, 31 May 2001, Steven McCaffrey wrote:
>
>   Hi Charles:
>
>
>        I'm using JFW 3.31.  I will just hear "edit".
>
>   Steve
>
>   >>> Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org> 05/31/01 08:43AM >>>
>   Thanks Steven, Dave.
>
>   Can you please explain what software you're using, and what happens?
>
>   cheers
>
>   Chaals
>
>   On Thu, 31 May 2001, Steven McCaffrey wrote:
>     Hello:
>          I agree with David in that it is still an issue.  The consequence is
>     that I will hear only "Edit" but will not know what type of 
> information is requested.
>
>     Steve McCaffrey
>     Information Technology Services
>     NYSED
>     >>> "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com> 05/31/01 07:49AM >>>
>     it is still an issue although many have solved it.  even though you have
>     to rub the text out, it is best to have something telling you where to
>     write because some renderings still confuse labels with edit boxes.
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>   ...
>
>     the rationale for this one was that there were assistive technology and
>     browser combinations that would skip over empty form controls. I am not
>     certain, but I believe that this is no longer an issue. I will ask the
>     Web Content Accessibility Guidelines group to address this question as
>     fast as possible.
>
>
>
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