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Re: Skipping navigation tactics

From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:03:49 +0100 (BST)
Message-Id: <200104092203.f39M3nj10891@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
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> Isn't accessibility about equality of access and choice  ? Forgive me
* if I have misunderstood but if style sheets are used so that navigation
* links are not seen or heard then this defeats this objective of being

The navigation links in question are internal links.  Without vision
one is losing information because the information is only in the layout,
not the semantic markup - we are not talking about pages designed
with accessibility as number one priority here.

The suggestion was that links added to replace the layout information
could be styled to only be "visible" audibly, giving back the information
lost through not being able to see the layout.  Such links are only
likely to be tolerated by typical web designer if they are invisible
or almost invisible in visual mode.  I repeat, this is not accessibility
as priority one, but trying to make the cost of adding accessibility to
something where eye candy is at least as high a priority (and probably
higher).

* able to choose. Remember, 'skip navigation' links are a priority three
* checkpoint and is more of a convenience issue rather than a barrier
* to access. Using style sheets in this way could plausibly deny access
* to navigational information if it is the case that they're not shown

The information is not lost; it is in the HTML.

* elsewhere on a page. Am I wrong ? If so, could someone please tell me
* how style sheets can be used effectively here ?

The ideal way to use style sheets here is author in linear reading order
and use positioning to place the various components in their correct
visual layout positions.  However, browsers currently in the field make
this approach unacceptable to designers.
Received on Monday, 9 April 2001 18:03:55 GMT

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