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RE: [media] Bobby blows whistle on inaccessible Web pages

From: Mike Paciello <paciello@webable.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:24:57 -0400
To: <david@davidsaccess.com>, "Kynn Bartlett" <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>, "Kathleen Anderson" <kathleen.anderson@po.state.ct.us>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAFOCBGBPOEHHLNGCEMFCNAA.paciello@webable.com>
I think the litmus test is how industry reacts; frankly, I have never heard
anyone complain about the image or the name. The fact that CAST has received
industry support from Sun, IBM, Microsoft, and Mitsubishi is also a strong
indication that the name suits them fine.

I understand Kynn's feelings on the matter and, from a philosphical
standpoint, I agree. But this is all business to me -- and "our" business
mission is to build awareness and develop creative accessibility
initiatives. Bobby clearly fits that model.

After all, which do you remember? The NCAM web access symbol or the Bobby
constable! (Insert smiley face here!)

- Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Clark [mailto:david@davidsaccess.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:04 AM
> To: paciello@webable.com; Kynn Bartlett; Kathleen Anderson;
> w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: RE: [media] Bobby blows whistle on inaccessible Web pages
>
>
> Mike,
>
> I completely agree with both you and Kynn. Though the name is, at times,
> problematic, it is a very recognizable brand that is known in the broader
> community.
>
> There have been extremely strong rumors that CAST is planning to drop the
> Bobby name entirely, for these reason\s. I believe that this would be an
> extreme disservice to the whole web accessibility "cause".
>
> dc
>
> ---------------
> David M. Clark
> 16 Harcourt Street, #2I
> Boston, MA  02116
> 617-859-3069
> http://www.davidsaccess.com
> david@davidsaccess.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org
[mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On Behalf
Of Mike Paciello
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:48 AM
To: Kynn Bartlett; Kathleen Anderson; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: [media] Bobby blows whistle on inaccessible Web pages

Kynn --

Your view may be correct -- unfortunately, you're also fighting the market
presence of the Bobby brand. I'll wager that the public at large knows more
about who/what Bobby is than they do about CAST....I wouldn't change the
name or the icon at this point. Wait until market maturity has maxed out,
then make the change.

- Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Kynn Bartlett
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:20 AM
> To: Kathleen Anderson; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: Re: [media] Bobby blows whistle on inaccessible Web pages
>
>
> At 10:13 AM -0400 9/7/00, Kathleen Anderson wrote:
> >Bobby 3.2, a free application from the Center for Applied Special
> >Technology, analyzes Web page source code for accessibility to disabled
> >users.
> >>From the September 4, 2000 issue of Government Computer News:
> >http://www.gcn.com/vol19_no26/news/2841-1.html
>
> BTW, just since it's semi-topical, I feel the "policeman" motif
> and metaphor for Bobby is rather sadly mischosen...I feel there's
> a negative aspect associated with the idea of Bobby "policing"
> Web like some sort of "accessibility cop" instead of being a
> useful tool for self-analysis.  It's unfortunate that an image
> of authority and law enforcement was selected and is the most
> visible "public face" of the Web accessibility movement.
>
> --Kynn
>
> PS:  Or maybe it's just that I live in Los Angeles...
> --
> --
> Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com>
> http://www.kynn.com/
>
Received on Thursday, 7 September 2000 11:22:08 GMT

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