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Re: Tool Tip behavior

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:43:57 -0500 (EST)
To: Karl Ove Hufthammer <huftis@bigfoot.com>
cc: WAI Interest Group Emailing List <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20.0002271141120.25610-100000@tux.w3.org>
I think the mechanism you are seeking is the one provided by the ruby
annotation element,a proposal being developed by the internationalisation
group, and in particular Masayasu Ishikawa. details at
http://www.w3.org/TR/ruby/

As for tooltip being a presentation method, it requires a very specific
interface to work, and should probably be an option that such a user agent
can set what things are presented as a tooltip.

cheers

Charles McCN

On Sat, 26 Feb 2000, Karl Ove Hufthammer wrote:

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>
  To: "Kynn Bartlett" <kynn-hwg@idyllmtn.com>
  Cc: "WAI Interest Group Emailing List" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
  Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 9:11 AM
  Subject: RE: Tool Tip behavior
  
  
  > in response to len, you wrote, quote:
  > Proper titling should be done despite whatever the user agents decide to 
  > do.  If there needs to be a specific TOOLTIP attribute,that might be the 
  > best approach for certain user agents, using extensible additions to XHTML.
  > unquote
  > 
  > or via an extension to CSS -- if you can define a cursor, why not a 
  > tooltip?  after all, they do have their uses -- even i can "see" that -- 
  
  [...]
  
  Yes, that sounds like a great idea. 'display: tooltip' perhaps? But there has to be a way to define *which* element it should be a tooltip for ...
  
  Hmm, perhaps using the parent element would work?
  
  <p>Neque porro quisquam est qui <em>dolorem <span class="footnote">(Ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur?)</span></em> ipsum quia dolor sit amet.
  
  with span.footnote { display: tooltip; width: 10em; height: auto; background: #F3F3BE; color: black; }
  
  "Ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur?" could now be displayed as a tooltip for the 'em' element (dolorem). This would of course not work with *empty* elements, e.g. 'img'.
  
  --#
  Karl Ove Hufthammer
  

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