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RE: Tool Tip behavior

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 07:48:43 -0500 (EST)
To: Bruce Bailey <bbailey@clark.net>
cc: pjenkins@us.ibm.com, WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20.0002270748190.25610-100000@tux.w3.org>
Well,

it is a User Agent technique really...

Charles McCN

On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Bruce Bailey wrote:

  Phil,
  
  I wrote:
  >> I am glad to hear you say that IE is following our (?) recommended
  >> behavior of using TITLE over ALT.  This IS how it works for me with
  >> IE 4.5 and a Mac.
  
  You asked:
  > Where does W3C / WAI recommend TITLE over ALT for tool tips?
  
  Well, I remember that being the consensus reached on the general IG list.
  Perhaps my memory is faulty.  I could not find the old thread when I looked
  for it.  I did not mean to imply that this piece of advice made its way into
  any formal guidelines.
  
  Should this distinction get kicked over to the GL list or is a general UA
  issue that does not have much to do with accessibility?
  
  -- Bruce
  
  
  You continued with:
  > I searched
  > WCAG, ATAG, UAAG, and their respective Techniques and only found a mention
  > in the HTML 4.01 spec:
  > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/global.html#idx-title-1
  > and the HTML 4 Accessibility Note.
  > http://www.w3.org/WAI/References/HTML4-access
  > "The new "title" attribute gives a short description of an image, etc.
  > Graphical browsers frequently pop-up this information when a user pauses
  > over an element with the mouse (tool-tips), but it is equally useful to
  > non-visual browsers"
  >
  > Neither reference recommends a preference order of TITLE over ALT. The
  > UA guideline 2 Ensure that users have access to all content, but not the
  > order.  Perhaps this should be made explicit in the UA guidelines? It may
  > make sense in a visual browser that the title= be render as a tool tip
  > since the user may have access to the visual image.  But I would recommend
  > a screen reader and text browser to render the alt=text first by default
  > and provide access to the title= some other way. After all, in HTML title=
  > attribute is not a WCAG P1 except for FRAME [WCAG 12.1], is a P2 for
  > navigation [WCAG 13.1],  and a P3 for ABBR [WCAG 4.2].
  [snip]
  

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