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RE: ALT-attribute usage (fwd)

From: David Poehlman <poehlman@clark.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:33:39 -0500 (EST)
To: Mike Paciello <paciello@yuri.org>
cc: Chuck Letourneau <cpl@starlingweb.com>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971103123232.6815B-100000@clark.net>
my take is that there needs to be a separator and item is just as good as
any, but perhaps there should be a note somewhere describing the symbol
used to denote that separator.  Style choosers want to know.


On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Mike Paciello wrote:

> Point well taken David. The question is, does the average blind or
> text-browser user want to know every symbol when it appears in a redundant
> sequence, like a list? 
> 
> - Mike
> 
> 
> At 11:58 AM 11/3/97 -0500, David Poehlman wrote:
> >Hi, I still want to know what the symbol is.  how do we find out if we
> >don't know to look at the source and such?
> >if you say item and I do agree that is what it means and it sure sounds
> >better and perhaps makes the text more meaningfull, but the question of
> >what symbol is being displayed is still there.  perhaps this goes into a
> >description catagory.
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Mike Paciello wrote:
> >
> >> I agree with Chuck. In fact, this is exactly what I stated in my last two
> >> workshops. Everyone agreed and felt this provided a more accurate
> >> description of the entity.
> >> 
> >> - Mike
> >> 
> >> 
> >> At 10:55 AM 11/3/97 -0500, Chuck Letourneau wrote:
> >> >Last week, Gregg wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>4) Recommend use of Alt = "bullet, "  (comma and space important to
> provide 
> >> >>pause)
> >> >>	- gets us back to providing a short audible cue between items to
> separate
> >> >>them and identify them as being items in a list.
> >> >>	- works on all browsers today
> >> >>	- gives the audible equivalent of a visual bullet
> >> >>	- allows variation if there are different bullet images (in which
> case the 
> >> >>meaning of the different bullets should be substituted.
> >> >>	- is annoying to hear if you already know for sure that it is a list
> item
> >> >>
> >> >>>From this listing it would appear that "bullet" would be the proper 
> >> >>approach. 
> >> >
> >> >Since "bullet" essentially means "item" (or new item, or next item), and
> >> >"item" does not denote any hierarchical value (as does a numbered list),
> >> >then the use of ALT="Item: " to describe the function of a bullet seems
> >> >appropriate to me.  "Item" avoids the pain mentioned by Len in a product
> >> >list, telling people to order that strange "bullet, train" which is really
> >> >"Item: train".  Also, doesn't the colon-space give a slightly better pause
> >> >than a comma-space? 
> >> >
> >> >Chuck Letourneau
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> 
> >
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