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RE: ALT-attribute usage (fwd)

From: Mike Paciello <paciello@yuri.org>
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 12:23:19 -0500
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To: David Poehlman <poehlman@clark.net>
Cc: Chuck Letourneau <cpl@starlingweb.com>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Point well taken David. The question is, does the average blind or
text-browser user want to know every symbol when it appears in a redundant
sequence, like a list? 

- Mike

At 11:58 AM 11/3/97 -0500, David Poehlman wrote:
>Hi, I still want to know what the symbol is.  how do we find out if we
>don't know to look at the source and such?
>if you say item and I do agree that is what it means and it sure sounds
>better and perhaps makes the text more meaningfull, but the question of
>what symbol is being displayed is still there.  perhaps this goes into a
>description catagory.
>On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Mike Paciello wrote:
>> I agree with Chuck. In fact, this is exactly what I stated in my last two
>> workshops. Everyone agreed and felt this provided a more accurate
>> description of the entity.
>> - Mike
>> At 10:55 AM 11/3/97 -0500, Chuck Letourneau wrote:
>> >Last week, Gregg wrote:
>> >>
>> >>4) Recommend use of Alt = "bullet, "  (comma and space important to
>> >>pause)
>> >>	- gets us back to providing a short audible cue between items to
>> >>them and identify them as being items in a list.
>> >>	- works on all browsers today
>> >>	- gives the audible equivalent of a visual bullet
>> >>	- allows variation if there are different bullet images (in which
case the 
>> >>meaning of the different bullets should be substituted.
>> >>	- is annoying to hear if you already know for sure that it is a list
>> >>
>> >>>From this listing it would appear that "bullet" would be the proper 
>> >>approach. 
>> >
>> >Since "bullet" essentially means "item" (or new item, or next item), and
>> >"item" does not denote any hierarchical value (as does a numbered list),
>> >then the use of ALT="Item: " to describe the function of a bullet seems
>> >appropriate to me.  "Item" avoids the pain mentioned by Len in a product
>> >list, telling people to order that strange "bullet, train" which is really
>> >"Item: train".  Also, doesn't the colon-space give a slightly better pause
>> >than a comma-space? 
>> >
>> >Chuck Letourneau
>> >
>> >
>> >
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