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RE: Survey available

From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:49:36 -0400
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To: "'Steve Faulkner'" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, "'Loretta Guarino Reid'" <lorettaguarino@google.com>
CC: "'WCAG'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Thanks for the email Steve... 


Sorry, the example should have been 6.1 (not 5.1)... so the comparison was
2.2 and 6.1

Example 2.2 <http://www.w3.org/TR/html-alt-techniques/#ex22> 

http://www.w3.org/TR/html-alt-techniques/#hat (6.1)


They are different examples, in that in 2.2 the link is surrounding an
image, and in 6.1 the link is below the image. But I wanted the group to
discuss the use of the title attribute in 2.2 on a link. Is that what we
recommend? I don't have strong opinions but some may. 


I put up a test page with NVDA and JAWS reading here:


JAWS reads the Title but not the ALT text, NVDA reads both... as usual the
Title Attribute has sporadic results in AT.


I have thrown the net quite wide in the discussion questions to the group. I
didn't want to miss anything that may be important to some team member.


Basically, I read through "HTML5: Techniques for providing Alternative Text"
http://www.w3.org/TR/html-alt-techniques/  and flagged anything that may be
perceived as an extension to WCAG advice, so that the team may review it. My
hope is that we'll have a document with full WCAG consensus and backing and
I can bring that back to the HTML 5 ALT Text task force, with that unity.
This may or may not require a few tweaks to gain concensus.


I encourage any WCAG team member to also read through the ALT text document,
and comment on anything I may have missed.



David MacDonald


CanAdapt Solutions Inc.

  "Enabling the Web"

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From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com] 
Sent: April-28-12 4:21 AM
To: Loretta Guarino Reid; David MacDonald
Subject: Re: Survey available


Hi All, 
I am pleased to see that the html5 alt document is being reviewed.

2. Example 5.1 

Example 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/TR/html-alt-techniques/#har>  doesn't have a
Title element in the image link to a long description but 2.2 does have one
and recommends it. (It is recommended that this use of Title attribute be
checked with the WCAG WG).

I am unclear what the relationship between  example 5.1
<http://www.w3.org/TR/html-alt-techniques/#har>  and example 2.2
<http://www.w3.org/TR/html-alt-techniques/#ex22>  is?

Is 5.1 the correct reference?

Also note the question refere to the title element should be title

3. Example 6.4
the mention of 'willful violation' is in reference to the WHATWG HTML living
standard which states that the type of image described in example 6.4 MUST
have a null alt text.


On 28 April 2012 02:17, Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>

I wanted to give people extra time on this one:

"HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives" for 03 May 2012

Received on Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:50:22 UTC

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