W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > w3c-wai-gl@w3.org > April to June 2009


From: Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:55:27 +0200
Message-Id: <>
To: "w3c-wai-gl@w3.org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Hi Cynthia,

At 22:35 11/06/2009, Cynthia Shelly wrote:
>document.write and innerHTML are not a problem for 
>accessibility.  They work just fine with AT.  I'm honestly still not 
>sure why we even have this technique.

I didn't claim that these methods cause accessibility problems. My 
point was that I and many others prefer to promote standards-based methods.

>There's also a larger issue here.  People are treating failing a 
>technique test as failing a success criterion.  That is simply not 
>true.  What can we do to educate tool makers about this?

The introduction to the techniques document 
<http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/intro.html> does not explain what 
failing the test procedure in a technique means. We could add an 
explanation there. But users who come to a technique through 
"Understanding WCAG 2.0" or "How to Meet WCAG 2.0" will probably not 
see that explanation. Should we add something in the test section of 
the techniques?

Best regards,


>-----Original Message-----
>From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] 
>On Behalf Of Christophe Strobbe
>Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:40 AM
>To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
>Subject: Re: SCR21
>At 14:06 8/06/2009, Andi Snow-Weaver wrote:
> >In SCR21, the test procedure says "Examine the source code and check
> >that the new content is not created using document.write(),
> >innerHTML, outerHTML, innerText or outerText."
> >
> >Some of the evaluation tools are flagging any use of these functions
> >as non-compliant with WCAG 2.0. But I don't think this is a correct
> >interpretation. It is only a failure if the intent was to use the
> >technique "Using functions of the Document Object Model (DOM) to add
> >content to a page". We don't have a failure technique around the use
> >of document.write(), innterHTML, etc.
> >
> >Perhaps we need to add a technique that demonstrates the correct use
> >of these functions.
>Such a technique might be perceived as encouraging the use of these
>non-DOM methods and as a step back for standards-based development.
>Instead of creating a technique for these functions, can we add a
>note to SCR21?
>Best regards,
>Christophe Strobbe

Christophe Strobbe
K.U.Leuven - Dept. of Electrical Engineering - SCD
Research Group on Document Architectures
Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 bus 2442
B-3001 Leuven-Heverlee
tel: +32 16 32 85 51
"Better products and services through end-user empowerment" 
Please don't invite me to LinkedIn, Facebook, Quechup or other 
"social networks". You may have agreed to their "privacy policy", but 
I haven't.
Received on Friday, 12 June 2009 08:56:14 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Tuesday, 16 January 2018 15:34:05 UTC