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RE: Issue #1099 (where acronym are ambiguous...)

From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:26:49 -0500
To: "'Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG'" <rscano@iwa-italy.org>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <auto-000111261236@spamarrest.com>

The requirement is that it be locatable.  So multiple definitions is

To be programmatically determined it would have to have a definition
associated with it in some fashion (if there were multiple).  But that is
currently only at level 3 and we have to define how we would mark those up
to make that work.   One way might be to put it in the top level dictionary
and make it unique there. 


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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center 
University of Wisconsin-Madison 

-----Original Message-----
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Of Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 3:21 AM
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Subject: Re: Issue #1099 (where acronym are ambiguous...)

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 6:52 AM
Subject: NEW: Issue #1099

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  Acronyms cannot always be expanded programmatically.
    -> http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1099

Roberto Scano:
Is also impossible to give a correct definition. Try to search a simple
acronym in www.acronymfinder.com - for eg. CMS.

Also there is another problem. With the same example, if i have in a
page a description of CMS (Content Management System) and I have to
expand the acronym, the first sentence is (remember that I'm italian so
i need to change language):

<acronym xml:lang="en" title="Content Management System">CMS</acronym>

and the following sentence will only referred as:

<acronym xml:lang="en">CMS</acronym>

Then, if in the same page I spoke about Microsoft CMS, i need to add
another acronym like this:

<acronym xml:lang="en" title="Content Management Server">CMS</acronym>

At this point, if I follow a discussion and i have another "CMS"
acronym, how can programmatically refer to the correct acronym?

I try to explain well. How can the user (with cognitive disabilities or
also with assistive technologies or also a "normal" user) to know to
what acronym refer the next "CMS".

A solution could be - but isn't available inside the DTD, to refer to
the ID of the "main acronym". Eg.

<acronym id="foo" xml:lang="en" title="Content Management

and in the second:

<acronym xxxx="foo" xml:lang="en">CMS</acronym>

where xxxx stays for an attribute that - at now - don't exist (eg:
"ref", ...)

Could this point be discussed eventually for future XHTML versions?

Roberto Scano
Received on Wednesday, 29 September 2004 15:26:47 UTC

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