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Re: New internal draft of HTML techniques

From: Paul Bohman <paulb@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 00:57:14 -0400
Message-ID: <4107322A.3090501@cc.usu.edu>
Cc: WAI-GL <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>

Joe Clark wrote:

> They're [optgroup labels] plainly displayed and visible. ...
> They don't *hide* the optgroup text. It is not *invisible* or absent.

The optgroup label is still there, but unless your Windows browsers work 
differently than mine, keyboard users never see the optgroup label of a 
drop-down list. The only way to see the optgroup labels is to use a mouse.

When I use my *mouse* to select a drop down list, I can see the whole 
list. I see the selectable options and I see the optgroup labels. 
Everything works fine with a mouse.

However, when I tab to the form element, and then use the arrow keys, 
the browser cycles through one option at a time. I never see the full 
list. It never cycles through the optgroup labels. I get the same 
behavior in my Mozilla based browsers, my IE browsers, and my Opera 

Paul Bohman
Project Coordinator
WebAIM (Web Accessibility in Mind)
Utah State University
Received on Wednesday, 28 July 2004 00:58:07 UTC

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