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Re: Comment on WCAG 2.0: Scaling and stylizing text

From: Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:41:57 -0400
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To: Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org

Jon,

I think this issue is covered by checkpoint 1.3 Make all content and 
structure available independently of presentation. [1]  Do you feel that 
this checkpoint and its success criteria are not strong enough?  Could this 
checkpoint be strengthened instead of adding a new checkpoint?

I think it is clear in the benefits for this checkpoint,
""
Separating content and structure from presentation allows Web pages to be 
presented differently to meet the needs and constraints of different users 
without losing any of the information or structure. For example, 
information can be presented via speech or braille (text) that was 
originally intended to be presented visually.
""

Perhaps we can make this more clear in the success criteria?
--wendy

[1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#use-style


At 10:17 AM 9/23/02, Jon Gunderson wrote:

>I would still like to see a checkpoint that states:
>
>Under Guideline 1:
>
>Checkpoint 1.x: Ensure that the font size and styling of text content is 
>easy to change.
>
>Basically pushing (requiring?) people to use CSS for styling of text, 
>rather than images.
>
>COMMENT:
>Authors using images to style text is one of the fundamental problems of 
>accessibility on the web.  The current guidelines seem to perpetuate this 
>problem, by allowing authors to continue this technique.  Text equivalents 
>for images used to style text is a poor substitute.  In some cases these 
>text equivalents are not even available to the user in the most common 
>browser technologies.  For example the ALT content for the AREA element is 
>not rendered by any of the major browsers (i.e when images are configured 
>to be not rendered).  Even when text equivalents are rendered, the user 
>often has little control over styling.  These are big problems for people 
>with visual impairments (low vision, non-screen reader users).
>
>I think there are limited exceptions to this requirement.  For example 
>text that is used as part of a logo to "brand" a web site.
>
>Jon
>
>
>Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
>Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
>Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
>MC-574
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>University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
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>
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>
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wendy a chisholm
world wide web consortium
web accessibility initiative
seattle, wa usa
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