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Re: [CSS-TECHS] issue 001225

From: Joe Clark <joeclark@contenu.nu>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:32:29 -0500
Message-Id: <a05100311b828aabf04d9@[]>
To: WAI-GL <w3c-wai-gl@W3.org>
>>   12/25/00 Do start/value attributes for <ol> <li> elements in CSS 
>>break WCAG 1.0 checkpoint 6.1 which requires that the document be 
>>readable w/o stylesheets? 
>In general I think there is an issue that we should be clear that 
>using style mechanisms to provide content is breaking the "cardinal 
>rule" of seperating presentation and content.

The list items are still marked up inside <li> and </li>. It may be 
inconvenient to lose the start value in no-stylesheet viewing, but 
the structure remains.

Also, could I just say here that it is high time we stopped 
pretending there are very many devices out there that cannot 
understand stylesheets? It is absurd to hamstring 95% of Web-browser 
users (it's more like 98%) because Lynx and a few non-Web devices do 
not understand CSS.

If anything, we should require that tools and devices *understand* 
CSS, not force authors to twist themselves to accommodate backward or 
maldesigned devices that don't. And this is coming from someone who 
uses Lynx for hours a day and owns a Newton. It's time to grow up a 
little. Technology marches on.
   Joe Clark | joeclark@joeclark.org | <http://joeclark.org/access/>
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Received on Monday, 26 November 2001 21:36:41 UTC

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