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Minutes for 2002-03-08 RDF Core Telecon (draft)

From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:43:41 -0000
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(Patrick please send a URL for the XML datatyping examples to complete this
draft)
[My apologies for the delay in sending out the minutes. - Jeremy]

Agenda:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Mar/0070.html
IRC Log: http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfcore/2002-03-08


Executive Summary
=================

No non-procedural decisions.
Actions
  ACTION 2002-03-08#1 bwm Suggest dates 17,18th June by e-mail.
  ACTION 2002-03-08#2 frankm Put first Primer WD in front of WG early next
week
  ACTION 2002-03-08#3 DaveB Propose an updated ntriple format for literal.
  ACTION 2002-03-08#4 jjc Produce XSLT test case which fails to copy
namespace declarations.
  ACTION 2002-03-08#5 DaveB review xml:base positive cases
  ACTION 2002-03-08#6 jjc Convert xml:base -ve to +ve cases on Monday
  ACTION 2002-03-08#7 Jos Review xml:base +ve cases

1: Allocate scribe

Jeremy was scribe, with assistance from Eric and Graham.

2: Roll Call

Regrets: Dan Connolly, Sergey Melnik
Present: Dan Brickley, Brian McBride (chair), Eric Miller, Dave Beckett,
Jeremy Carroll, Ron Daniel, Jos DeRoo, Jan Grant, Graham Klyne, Frank
Manola, Steve Petschulat, Patrick Stickler, Aaron Swartz, Mike Dean

3: Review Agenda

Jeremy wished to invite observer for next week.


4: Next telecon 10am Boston time, 15 Mar 2002


4A: Invite to Mark Butler

Jeremy will invite Mark Butler of HP Labs to observe next week's telecon.
No objections.

5: Review Minutes of 2002-02-22 telecon

See:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Feb/0656.html

Approved.


6: Review Minutes of 25/26 Feb 2002 Face to Face

See:
  http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20020225-f2f/

An action on Jeremy to review error1 of xml:base as well as error2 and
error3 was omitted.
Minutes approved subject to adding that action.

7: Confirm Status of Completed Actions

ACTION: 2001-11-30#3 Jan Grant
Get access to test case areas of W3C site

ACTION: 2002-01-11#1 bwm
persue CVS access for Jan with EM

see:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Jan/0255.html

ACTION: 2002-02-15#1 EricM
Find details of phone access during F2F

Approved no objections.

8: June F2F meeting

Location Bristol.

ACTION 2002-03-08#1 bwm Suggest dates 17,18th June by e-mail.

9: Status of Primer WD

http://www.w3.org/2001/09/rdfprimer/rdf-primer-20020308.html

Desire to publish as WD, including editorial comments.

ACTION 2002-03-08#2 frankm Put first Primer WD in front of WG early next
week

10: Clarifying F2F Literals Decision
There are two kinds of literals and each is a pair


See:
  http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20020225-f2f/#d-2002-02-26-1

Patrick noted that in Schema there is one sort of literal, and having two
syntactic forms for literals may be confusing.

ACTION 2002-03-08#3 DaveB Propose an updated ntriple format for literal.


11: Model Theory

Postponed.


12: Datatypes
Action: 2002-02-26#8  PatrickS  Create XML examples for datatypes doc

This action has been completed:
  Missing URL

The following text of the agenda was not discussed:
[[[
Issues with the current proposal:
    * The lack of XML examples (Patrick Stickler to provide)
    * Jeremy's entailment is a problem
    * Octal is not an XML Schema datatype
    * XML Schema datatypes do not support different language representations

See:
  http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20020225-f2f/#d-2002-02-26-3
]]]

Brian proposed this issue:
  Its too complex; the doublet idiom was not completely removed.

The relevant text is in section 5:
[[[ 
ex:age rdfs:drange xsd:number
Jimmy ex:age _:x .
_:x rdfs:dlex "35" .
]]]

No decision was taken, discussion to continue on e-mail.

13: Issue rdfms-xml-literal-namespaces
Action: 2002-02-26#5  jjc  Produce proposal for use of canonicalization for parseType literals
See:
  http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-xml-literal-namespaces

Round-tripping, xsi:type="xsd:decimal", XSLT were discussed.

ACTION 2002-03-08#4 jjc Prod
uce XSLT test case which fails to copy namespace declarations.

15: XML Base Test Cases
Reviewing these needs to be complete
See:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Feb/att-0516/01-xmlba
se.zip

ACTION 2002-03-08#5 DaveB review xml:base positive cases
ACTION 2002-03-08#6 jjc Convert xml:base -ve to +ve cases on Monday
ACTION 2002-03-08#7 Jos Review xml:base +ve cases

14: IRI's

Are the fraud examples compelling?
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Mar/0027.html

In short discussion curtailed by meeting close the answer was "no".

Meeting closed.
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