Agenda for RDFCore WG Telecon 2002-01-11

Time:
10:00:00 Fri Jan 11 2002 in America/New York

which is equivalent to
15:00:00 Fri Jan 11 2002 in Europe/London

Phone: +1-617-761-6200 (Zakim)#7332
irc: irc.openprojects.net #rdfcore

1: Allocate scribe


2: Roll Call


3: Review Agenda


4: Next telecon - 10am Boston time, 18 Jan 2002


5: Review Minutes of 2001-12-14

See:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0108.html


6: Confirm Status of Completed Actions

ACTION:  2001-11-30#6 Mike Dean
Sumamrise Joint Committee position, confirm with them, circulate to us.

see:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Jan/0033.html

ACTION: 2001-12-07#1a  Jos
review new syntax wd

see:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0095.html

ACTION: 2001-12-07#2b Jeremy
Review new syntax wd

see:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0115.html

ACTION: 2001-12-07#2c Patrick
Review syntax WD

see:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0096.html

ACTION: 2001-12-07#3a Jos
Review test case on para 196

see:
  http://cvs.ilrt.org/cvsweb/redland/rdfcore/rdfms-para196

see:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0098.html

ACTION: 2001-12-07#3b jeremy
review test case for para 196

see:
  http://cvs.ilrt.org/cvsweb/redland/rdfcore/rdfms-para196

see:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/01

ACTION: 2001-12-14#1 Pat Hayes
Copy current editors draft to www-archive@w3.org and tell WebOnt WG of its existence.

ACTION: 2001-12-14#5 Dave Beckett
Get syntax WD revision to be published to Eric

ACTION: 2001-12-14#6 Eric Miller
Act as team contact for publication (of syntax WD)

ACTION: 2001-12-14#7 Jeremy Carroll
look at #rdfms-not-id-and-resource-attr

see:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Jan/0018.html



7: Syntax WD
Congratulations to DaveB on publishing another WD


8: Status of Test Cases WD
ACTION: 2001-11-30#3 Jan Grant Get access to test case areas of W3C site

Is this document upto date?  Do we have test cases for all decisions?
Where are we on entailment tests?



9: Status of Primer


10: Model Theory WD
Actions:
2001-12-14#2  Jos De Roo        Review Model Theory WD
2001-12-14#2  Jeremy Carroll    Review Model Theory WD
2001-12-14#2  Patrick Stickler  Review Model Theory WD

This will be a reminder to folks to complete there review.


See:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2002Jan/att-0007/01-RDF_Model_Theory.htm
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Jan/0000.html


11: Review test cases on para 196
2001-11-30#5 Dave Beckett Create test case showing that the 2nd URL in Para 196 is permitted.
2001-12-07#3a  Jos  Review test case on para 196
2001-12-07#3b  jeremy  review test case for para 196

See:
  http://cvs.ilrt.org/cvsweb/redland/rdfcore/rdfms-para196
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0098.htm
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/01


12: Issue: #rdfms-qname-uri-mapping
The WG resolves to not change the algorithm for mapping qnames to uris
and close this issue on the grounds:

  1. Such a change would be a major change to the mapping of
     RDF/XML syntax to the model and would be beyond our charter.

  2. It would cause the same RDF/XML to generate a different
     graph from existing versus revised implementations

  3. Existing code may generate wrong (illegal) graphs for some RDF/XML.


See:
  http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-qname-uri-mapping
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Jan/0016.html


13: Issue: #rdfms-reification-required
The WG resolves that a parser is not required to create bags of reified 
statements for all rdf:Description elements, only those which are
explicitly reified using an rdf:ID on a propertyElt or by an RDF:bagID
on the rdf:Description.

Existing test cases, such as:
  
 http://www.w3.org/2000/10/rdf-tests/rdfcore/rdf-ns-prefix-confusion/test0001.rdf

demonstrate this resolution.


See:
  http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-reification-required
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Jan/0017.html


14: Issue:  #rdfms-replace-value
Proposal 1 (DaveB):  The WG resolves:

  to not change the name rdf:value and close this issue on the grounds:

  1. Insufficient reasons to make this change
  2. Will causing an existing uses to be illegal - such as as
     the examples in M&S.

Proposal 2 (Aaron): Open a new issue to clarify the semantics of rdf:value.
Aaron has proposed text for this issue.

Proposal 3 (bwm):  The proposed name change was intended to better express
the meaning of the property.  However the meaning of the property is not clear.
The WG therefore:

  o resolves to not change the name of this property at this time on
    the grounds:

    - insufficient reasons to make this change
    - will casue existing uses to be illegal - such as examples in m&s

 o resolves to recast this issue as a need to clarify the semantics
   of rdf:value.

 o actions bwm to update issues list with text based on Aarons proposal

 o actions DB to remove this issue from the list affecting the syntax


See:
  http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-replace-value
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Jan/0015.html
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Jan/0025.html


15: Datatypes

2001-11-30#6 MikeD Sumarise Joint Committee position, confirm with them, circulate to us.

Status?  Plans?


See:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0065.html
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Jan/0033.html


16: Issue: #rdfms-not-id-and-resource-attr
Discuss Jeremy and Jan's proposals.


See:
  http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-not-id-and-resource-attr
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Jan/0018.html
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Jan/0034.html


17: Issue: rdfms-assertion
Discuss current status

See:
  http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-assertion
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Nov/0568.html
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2001OctDec/0324.html
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Nov/0560.html
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Nov/0558.html



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