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Re: Denotation of datatype values

From: Patrick Stickler <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 16:03:34 +0300
To: ext Graham Klyne <Graham.Klyne@mimesweeper.com>
CC: RDF Core <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <B8D8C156.12C5C%patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
On 2002-04-09 13:39, "ext Graham Klyne" <Graham.Klyne@MIMEsweeper.com>
wrote:

> At 10:19 AM 4/9/02 +0300, Patrick Stickler wrote:
>> I.e. given only
>> 
>>    Jane ex:age "25" .
>> 
>> "25" alone does not denote the value twenty-five. But given
>> 
>>    ex:age rdfd:range xsd:integer .
>>    Jane ex:age "25" .
>> 
>> then "25" and the rdfd:range assertion *together* denote the
>> value twenty-five. Yet still, "25" alone does not denote the
>> value twenty-five. There is no single node in the graph which
>> denotes the value twenty-five. The value remains implicit in
>> the datatype interpretation.
> 
> According to my understanding of the datatyping proposal, there is
> _nothing_ in this graph that denotes the value 25.  All that is required is
> that there exists some value, not necessarily denoted by anything in the
> graph, that is related to the string "25" by the datatype
> "xsd:integer".  (And according to our shared understanding of xsd:integer,
> that "some value" is 25.)

I agree. I perhaps am using the word "denote" incorrectly here.

The question is whether we need/want there always to be
"something in the graph" to denote the value 25 when, based
on our shared understanding, we know we're talking about
the value 25.

Patrick

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