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Re: 2001-09-07#5 Literals (use cases/test inputs, please?)

From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:25:32 -0500
Message-ID: <3BD1C19C.43B20687@w3.org>
To: Brian McBride <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
CC: Jan Grant <Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk>, Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, w3c-rdfcore-wg <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>, timbl <timbl@w3.org>
Brian McBride wrote:
> 
> Dan Connolly wrote:
> [...]
> 
> > What are these use cases?
> 
> We had 3.  Martyn had one where xml:lang was not used.

??? I wonder how that's relevant...

>  Jan had one where it
> was.

Jan? Got any example files? What software are you using?

>  Eric had one where it was - though he still owes us a write up of that one.

That's the one I keep hearing about. I phoned him about it,
and he said they ended up using properties to represent
language, not xml:lang.

> [...]
> 
> >>
> >
> > I didn't refer to any other critical issues: just that I can't
> > "see" xml:lang using rdf properties.
> 
> Your right.  In
> 
>    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Oct/0388.html
> 
> you said [[[
> 
>    All of my attempts to deal with xml:lang have run into critical
>    problems.
> 
> ]]]
> 
> What are these critical *problems*?

From the same message:

[[[
For example, I tried to do a visualization of the RDF schema
for RDF, using cwm, and I couldn't find a way to get it
to filter the french labels from the english labels... because
the xml:lang information isn't in triple form.
]]]

As far as I know, none of the RDF query systems
allows me to say "show me the english labels
from the RDFS schema".

> >> Please make the case there is a real problem.
> >>
> >
> > I have made the case to my satisfaction.
> 
> Are there any pointers I can look at?

You have already seen it:
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Oct/0388.html

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Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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