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RE: RDFcore Minutes: 2001-06-08 Teleconference (for review)

From: <Ora.Lassila@nokia.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:36:40 -0500
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Hmm... I thought I had sent regrets; anyway, I am pretty sure I wasn't there
:-)

	- Ora

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Research Fellow, Nokia Research Center / Boston

> ----------
> From: 	ext Jan Grant
> Sent: 	Friday, June 8, 2001 12:26
> To: 	RDFCore Working Group
> Subject: 	RDFcore Minutes: 2001-06-08 Teleconference (for review)
> 
> RDFCore WG 2001-06-07 Teleconference minutes
> 
> Transcript:
> 	http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfcore/2001-06-08
> 
> Agenda:
> 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Jun/0086.html
> 
> Roll call:
> 
>   Participants:
>   - Art Barstow
>   - Dave Beckett (.5 scribe)
>   - Dan Brickley (chair)
>   - Brian McBride (chair)
>   - Jos De Roo
>   - Bill dehOra
>   - Mike Dean
>   - Jan Grant (.5 scribe)
>   - R.V. Guha
>   - Pat Hayes
>   - Ora Lassila
>   - Frank Manola
>   - Eric Miller
>   - Stephen Petschulat
>   - Aaron Swartz
> 
>   Regrets: Martyn Horner, Graham Klyne
> 
> Review Agenda:
> 
>   - Jos De Roo: would like some discussion on the containers,
>     reification issues for AOB if time.
> 
> Minutes of the last meeting:
> 
> 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Jun/0008.html
> with correction
> 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Jun/0050.html
> 
> Confirm following actions completed:
> 
> D1: Dan Brickley  send analysis (#rdf-container-syntax-ambiguity and
>                   #rdf-containers-syntax-vs-schema)to rdfcore-wg list
>   DONE.
> 
> D2: Brian McBride edit the errata per the resolutions above; i.e. those
>     regarding #rdf-ns-prefix-confusion.  [ArtB to work with Brian to get
>     Brian write access to the errata and to determine a strategy for
>     maintaining the appropriate documents.]
>   DONE.
> 
> ACTION: JUN-01-01-#3: Jos: review the test cases for
> rdfms-empty-property-element
>   DONE.
> 
> ACTION: JUN-01-01-#4: DaveB: review the test cases for
> rdfms-empty-property-element
>   DONE.
> 
> ACTION: JUN-01-01-#7: Jan: summarize what XML-Base might do for RDF.
>   DONE.
> 
> ACTION: JUN-01-01-#8: DanC: send a note to the WG that points
>    out the bug in the spec regarding aboutEach
>   DONE.
> 
> 
> Review status of following actions:
> 
>  A1: Dan Brickley: Solicit RDF feature usage info from Guha and report
>      back to the group.
>   DONE.
> 
>  A4: Guha: re #rdfms-reification-required: Present analaysis to list
>      for discussion.
>   CONTINUES.
> 
> ACTION: JUN-01-01-#1: Martyn: create test cases rdfms-resource-semantics
>   CONTINUES.
> 
> ACTION: JUN-01-01-#2: FrankM: create tests case for reification.
>   CONTINUES. (Frank reports these as under development)
> 
> ACTION: JUN-01-01-#5: Eric: investigate a test case repository for the
>    WG.  The repository must facilitat WG members adding and modifying
>    test cases.
>   CONTINUES. (Eric reports team access to repository in place)
> 
> ACTION: JUN-01-01-#9: Ora: send a note to the WG that describes
>    how aboutEach is being used and how it was implemented
>   CONTINUES.
> 
> 
> Issues discussion:
> 
> 
> Issue #1
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-empty-property-elements
> 
>   Owner: Jan Grant
> 
> Consensus that the test cases are OK.
> RESOLUTION: the consolidated test cases represent RDFCore's decision on
>   this; the issue can be closed once those test cases are all in one
>   place.
> AP: 2001-06-08#1: Jan: Consolidate, renumber and repost test cases.
> 
> 
> Issue #2
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdf-containers-syntax-ambiguity
> http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdf-containers-syntax-vs-schema
> 
>   Owner: Dan Brickley
> 
> Some discussion about the behaviour of various RDF implementations with
> regard to (re-)numbering container members. The consensus seemed to be
> that RDFMS did not preclude an RDF implementation from handling partial
> descriptions of containers.
> Aaron: pointed out this didn't resolve the open syntax issues.
> 
> AP: 2001-06-08#2: Dan Brickley: write this up in more detail for the
>         list
> AP: 2001-06-08#3: Brian McBride: pick up on the syntax issues now the
>         model details have been clarified.
> 
> 
> Issue #3
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-difference-between-ID-and-ab
> out
> 
>   Owner: Aaron Swartz
> 
> Aaron: summarised earlier email discussing this
> 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Jun/0019.html
> Aaron: Leaning towards proposal #2
> Dave Beckett: third proposal: much code seems to treat rdf:ID and
>        rdf:about as effectively synonyms. The triples generated would
>        be the same.
> 
> AP: 2001-06-08#4: Brian McBride to write up this third proposed
>        interpretation
>   CONTINUES.
> 
> 
> Issue #4
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-xml-base
> 
>   Owner: Jan Grant
> 
> Discussion revolved around whether admitting this to RDFMS was in scope;
> their were concerns about versioning requirements since new documents
> using xml:base would produce different output on older parsers.
> Pat: making RDF malleable in the face of future changes to XML:Base is
>       not a good thing.
> 
> AP: 2001-06-08#5: Eric: to talk to the XLM Processing Workshop about RDF
>       requirements from XML:Base
> 
>   CONTINUES. (Take to email)
> 
> 
> Review of updated issues list document:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/
> 
> AP: 2001-06-08#6: ALL: comments to list
> 
> 
> Date of next meeting:
> 
>   One week, 2001-06-15.
> 
> (The phone number to be advised, but it should remain constant until
> September)
> 
> -- 
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> 
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