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Re: RDFcore Minutes: 2001-06-08 Teleconference (for review)

From: Brian McBride <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 19:08:24 +0100
Message-ID: <3B211497.CEB90937@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
To: Ora.Lassila@nokia.com
CC: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org
Hi Ora,

I've checked my mail archive and the list archive and I can't find your
'regrets'.  If there was some glitch in the mail system, forward your
copy and we'll correct the minutes.

Brian




Ora.Lassila@nokia.com wrote:
> 
> Hmm... I thought I had sent regrets; anyway, I am pretty sure I wasn't there
> :-)
> 
>         - Ora
> 
> --
> Ora Lassila, mailto:ora.lassila@nokia.com, +1 (781) 993-4603
> Research Fellow, Nokia Research Center / Boston
> 
> > ----------
> > From:         ext Jan Grant
> > Sent:         Friday, June 8, 2001 12:26
> > To:   RDFCore Working Group
> > Subject:      RDFcore Minutes: 2001-06-08 Teleconference (for review)
> >
> > RDFCore WG 2001-06-07 Teleconference minutes
> >
> > Transcript:
> >       http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfcore/2001-06-08
> >
> > Agenda:
> >       http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Jun/0086.html
> >
> > Roll call:
> >
> >   Participants:
> >   - Art Barstow
> >   - Dave Beckett (.5 scribe)
> >   - Dan Brickley (chair)
> >   - Brian McBride (chair)
> >   - Jos De Roo
> >   - Bill dehOra
> >   - Mike Dean
> >   - Jan Grant (.5 scribe)
> >   - R.V. Guha
> >   - Pat Hayes
> >   - Ora Lassila
> >   - Frank Manola
> >   - Eric Miller
> >   - Stephen Petschulat
> >   - Aaron Swartz
> >
> >   Regrets: Martyn Horner, Graham Klyne
> >
> > Review Agenda:
> >
> >   - Jos De Roo: would like some discussion on the containers,
> >     reification issues for AOB if time.
> >
> > Minutes of the last meeting:
> >
> >       http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Jun/0008.html
> > with correction
> >       http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Jun/0050.html
> >
> > Confirm following actions completed:
> >
> > D1: Dan Brickley  send analysis (#rdf-container-syntax-ambiguity and
> >                   #rdf-containers-syntax-vs-schema)to rdfcore-wg list
> >   DONE.
> >
> > D2: Brian McBride edit the errata per the resolutions above; i.e. those
> >     regarding #rdf-ns-prefix-confusion.  [ArtB to work with Brian to get
> >     Brian write access to the errata and to determine a strategy for
> >     maintaining the appropriate documents.]
> >   DONE.
> >
> > ACTION: JUN-01-01-#3: Jos: review the test cases for
> > rdfms-empty-property-element
> >   DONE.
> >
> > ACTION: JUN-01-01-#4: DaveB: review the test cases for
> > rdfms-empty-property-element
> >   DONE.
> >
> > ACTION: JUN-01-01-#7: Jan: summarize what XML-Base might do for RDF.
> >   DONE.
> >
> > ACTION: JUN-01-01-#8: DanC: send a note to the WG that points
> >    out the bug in the spec regarding aboutEach
> >   DONE.
> >
> >
> > Review status of following actions:
> >
> >  A1: Dan Brickley: Solicit RDF feature usage info from Guha and report
> >      back to the group.
> >   DONE.
> >
> >  A4: Guha: re #rdfms-reification-required: Present analaysis to list
> >      for discussion.
> >   CONTINUES.
> >
> > ACTION: JUN-01-01-#1: Martyn: create test cases rdfms-resource-semantics
> >   CONTINUES.
> >
> > ACTION: JUN-01-01-#2: FrankM: create tests case for reification.
> >   CONTINUES. (Frank reports these as under development)
> >
> > ACTION: JUN-01-01-#5: Eric: investigate a test case repository for the
> >    WG.  The repository must facilitat WG members adding and modifying
> >    test cases.
> >   CONTINUES. (Eric reports team access to repository in place)
> >
> > ACTION: JUN-01-01-#9: Ora: send a note to the WG that describes
> >    how aboutEach is being used and how it was implemented
> >   CONTINUES.
> >
> >
> > Issues discussion:
> >
> >
> > Issue #1
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-empty-property-elements
> >
> >   Owner: Jan Grant
> >
> > Consensus that the test cases are OK.
> > RESOLUTION: the consolidated test cases represent RDFCore's decision on
> >   this; the issue can be closed once those test cases are all in one
> >   place.
> > AP: 2001-06-08#1: Jan: Consolidate, renumber and repost test cases.
> >
> >
> > Issue #2
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdf-containers-syntax-ambiguity
> > http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdf-containers-syntax-vs-schema
> >
> >   Owner: Dan Brickley
> >
> > Some discussion about the behaviour of various RDF implementations with
> > regard to (re-)numbering container members. The consensus seemed to be
> > that RDFMS did not preclude an RDF implementation from handling partial
> > descriptions of containers.
> > Aaron: pointed out this didn't resolve the open syntax issues.
> >
> > AP: 2001-06-08#2: Dan Brickley: write this up in more detail for the
> >         list
> > AP: 2001-06-08#3: Brian McBride: pick up on the syntax issues now the
> >         model details have been clarified.
> >
> >
> > Issue #3
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-difference-between-ID-and-ab
> > out
> >
> >   Owner: Aaron Swartz
> >
> > Aaron: summarised earlier email discussing this
> >       http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Jun/0019.html
> > Aaron: Leaning towards proposal #2
> > Dave Beckett: third proposal: much code seems to treat rdf:ID and
> >        rdf:about as effectively synonyms. The triples generated would
> >        be the same.
> >
> > AP: 2001-06-08#4: Brian McBride to write up this third proposed
> >        interpretation
> >   CONTINUES.
> >
> >
> > Issue #4
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-xml-base
> >
> >   Owner: Jan Grant
> >
> > Discussion revolved around whether admitting this to RDFMS was in scope;
> > their were concerns about versioning requirements since new documents
> > using xml:base would produce different output on older parsers.
> > Pat: making RDF malleable in the face of future changes to XML:Base is
> >       not a good thing.
> >
> > AP: 2001-06-08#5: Eric: to talk to the XLM Processing Workshop about RDF
> >       requirements from XML:Base
> >
> >   CONTINUES. (Take to email)
> >
> >
> > Review of updated issues list document:
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/
> >
> > AP: 2001-06-08#6: ALL: comments to list
> >
> >
> > Date of next meeting:
> >
> >   One week, 2001-06-15.
> >
> > (The phone number to be advised, but it should remain constant until
> > September)
> >
> > --
> > jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/
> > Tel +44(0)117 9287163 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk
> > Unfortunately, I have a very good idea how fast my keys are moving.
> >
> >
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