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RE: URI for abstract concepts (domain, host, origin, site, etc.)

From: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:41:14 -0700
To: Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com>, John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>
CC: URI <uri@w3.org>
Message-ID: <8B62A039C620904E92F1233570534C9B0118CDB91376@nambx04.corp.adobe.com>
This sounds like a job for .... tdb!
http://larry.masinter.net/duri.html

urn:tdb::data:,the%20host%20www.ccil.org
urn:tdb::data:,the%20site%20www.ccil.org

My guess is that this doesn't meet your requirements, but perhaps you could be more explicit about those?

Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: www-tag-request@w3.org [mailto:www-tag-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:20 PM
To: John Cowan
Cc: apps-discuss@ietf.org; www-tag@w3.org; URI
Subject: RE: URI for abstract concepts (domain, host, origin, site, etc.)

You are right. But this only means that a document about <data:application/uri,http://www.ccil.org> is simply a description of the URI itself. This still does not help me relay the concept of a host. I still don't know what to put inside this data URI to convey this.

EHL

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Cowan [mailto:cowan@ccil.org]
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:04 PM
> To: Eran Hammer-Lahav
> Cc: John Cowan; apps-discuss@ietf.org; www-tag@w3.org; URI
> Subject: Re: URI for abstract concepts (domain, host, origin, site,
> etc.)
> 
> Eran Hammer-Lahav scripsit:
> 
> > Not sure how this is going to help. You still end up with an HTTP URI
> > with no clear semantic meaning other than an HTTP resource.
> 
> What do you mean by "end up with"?  A data URI is not an HTTP URI.
> <http://www.ccil.org> refefers to the home page of ccil.org;
> <data:application/uri,http://www.ccil.org> refers to the URI
> <http://www.ccil.org>.  They are two different URIs with two different
> referents.
> 
> --
> John Cowan              http://www.ccil.org/~cowan      cowan@ccil.org
> "After all, would you consider a man without honor wealthy, even if his
> Dinar laid end to end would reach from here to the Temple of Toplat?"
> "No, I wouldn't", the beggar replied.  "Why is that?" the Master asked.
> "A Dinar doesn't go very far these days, Master.        --Kehlog Albran
> Besides, the Temple of Toplat is across the street."      The Profit
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