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Re: New W3C Web Site Launched

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:53:50 -0500
To: Jeff Schiller <codedread@gmail.com>
Message-Id: <E22C58DE-20DD-4B1B-8F18-C385E8363801@w3.org>
Cc: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>, site-comments@w3.org, chairs@w3.org

On 14 Oct 2009, at 9:50 AM, Jeff Schiller wrote:

> Um...
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/ is now a 404?
>
> Please don't break the web! :)


Of course not. Obviously we are going to encounter a bunch of things  
that need fixing
that happened during the deployment (despite careful preparation).

These reports are very helpful and we will fix all the bugs as quickly  
as we can.

  _ Ian

>
> Regards,
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Michael Hausenblas
> <michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>>> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The RDF
>>> that we use
>>> is public:
>>>
>>>   Group data:
>>>   http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
>>>
>>>   Technical reports data:
>>>   http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
>>
>> Thanks! This is good news indeed, though seems not to have not been
>> communicated in an optimal way. I still think we can do more (re  
>> events,
>> specs, authorships, test cases, etc.) - so many wonderful  
>> vocabularies such
>> as DOAP, FOAF, SIOC, etc. just waiting to be used ... :)
>>
>>> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
>>
>> Maybe I'm dense, but what are you trying to tell me, here ?
>>
>> RDFa is just like RDF/XML a RDF serialisation. And a W3C standard.  
>> Over the
>> past two years we have successfully convinced quite a number of  
>> players
>> (from Drupal over Wordpress to the UK gov) out there that enabling  
>> RDFa
>> support is not only doable but straight-forward and worth it.
>>
>>> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR  
>>> searches),
>>> and we are likely
>>> to do more.
>>
>> Very good! Looking forward to use yet another W3C standard and  
>> hence eating
>> more of our own dogfood ;)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>      Michael
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>> Ireland, Europe
>> Tel. +353 91 495730
>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
>> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:39:32 -0500
>>> To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
>>> Cc: <site-comments@w3.org>, <chairs@w3.org>, W3C Members
>>> <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>>> Subject: Re: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 Oct 2009, at 2:50 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ian,
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, very nice job re design and usability. However, I think we
>>>> should
>>>> also take into account what our 'customers' think [1], [2]:
>>>>
>>>> "so, are #semanticweb standards too complicated when even the new
>>>> #w3c site
>>>> doesn't use them? #stopsnakeoil"
>>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The RDF
>>> that we use
>>> is public:
>>>
>>>   Group data:
>>>   http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
>>>
>>>   Technical reports data:
>>>   http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
>>>
>>> And there's lots more, such as the Talks data.
>>>
>>> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
>>>
>>> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR  
>>> searches),
>>> and we are likely
>>> to do more.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "@iand apparently all of them: No (obvious) RDF export, no SPARQL
>>>> API. Just
>>>> some (broken!) hCalendar items."
>>>>
>>>> This is indeed a poor message we send out - why don't we eat our  
>>>> own
>>>> dogfood? We have a couple of nice standards (RDFa, GRDDL, etc.) in
>>>> this area
>>>> and should well be able to demonstrate that we are able to use  
>>>> them,
>>>> IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for spoiling the party, but given the broad uptake of  
>>>> semantic
>>>> technologies in the governmental area (US, UK), the eCommerce  
>>>> domain
>>>> (GoodRelations), linked data stuff and Google and Yahoo! processing
>>>> structured data, I can't seriously explain to my colleagues or  
>>>> other
>>>> W3C
>>>> customers why we don't have structured data (preferably in RDF)
>>>> available at
>>>> the new W3C site.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts, anyone?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>      Michael
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856670048
>>>> [2] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856830531
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>> Tel. +353 91 495730
>>>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
>>>> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:07:47 -0500
>>>>> To: W3C Members <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>>>>> Cc: <chairs@w3.org>
>>>>> Subject: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>>>> Resent-From: <chairs@w3.org>
>>>>> Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:07:53 +0000
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Advisory Committee Representatives and Chairs,
>>>>>
>>>>> Today W3C launched its new Web site:
>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> We also launched the new Member site:
>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/Member/
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope that you will find the new sites more usable. You will  
>>>>> notice
>>>>> that some pages are missing content; we plan to continue to add
>>>>> content over time and invite your contributions (especially from
>>>>> Working Groups).
>>>>>
>>>>> I expect that over the next few days we will be fixing bugs in  
>>>>> style
>>>>> sheets, and so forth. Feel free to send comments to site-
>>>>> comments@w3.org.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian Jacobs, Head of W3C Communications
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
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