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Re: New W3C Web Site Launched

From: Jeff Schiller <codedread@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:50:20 -0500
Message-ID: <da131fde0910140750u4913cb1iebe517af135fd048@mail.gmail.com>
To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
Cc: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>, site-comments@w3.org, chairs@w3.org
Um...

http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/ is now a 404?

Please don't break the web! :)

Regards,
Jeff

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Michael Hausenblas
<michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:
>
> Ian,
>
>> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The RDF
>> that we use
>> is public:
>>
>>   Group data:
>>   http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
>>
>>   Technical reports data:
>>   http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
>
> Thanks! This is good news indeed, though seems not to have not been
> communicated in an optimal way. I still think we can do more (re events,
> specs, authorships, test cases, etc.) - so many wonderful vocabularies such
> as DOAP, FOAF, SIOC, etc. just waiting to be used ... :)
>
>> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
>
> Maybe I'm dense, but what are you trying to tell me, here ?
>
> RDFa is just like RDF/XML a RDF serialisation. And a W3C standard. Over the
> past two years we have successfully convinced quite a number of players
> (from Drupal over Wordpress to the UK gov) out there that enabling RDFa
> support is not only doable but straight-forward and worth it.
>
>> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR searches),
>> and we are likely
>> to do more.
>
> Very good! Looking forward to use yet another W3C standard and hence eating
> more of our own dogfood ;)
>
> Cheers,
>      Michael
>
> --
> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
> Ireland, Europe
> Tel. +353 91 495730
> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>
>
>
>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:39:32 -0500
>> To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
>> Cc: <site-comments@w3.org>, <chairs@w3.org>, W3C Members
>> <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>> Subject: Re: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>
>>
>> On 14 Oct 2009, at 2:50 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>> Indeed, very nice job re design and usability. However, I think we
>>> should
>>> also take into account what our 'customers' think [1], [2]:
>>>
>>> "so, are #semanticweb standards too complicated when even the new
>>> #w3c site
>>> doesn't use them? #stopsnakeoil"
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The RDF
>> that we use
>> is public:
>>
>>   Group data:
>>   http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
>>
>>   Technical reports data:
>>   http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
>>
>> And there's lots more, such as the Talks data.
>>
>> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
>>
>> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR searches),
>> and we are likely
>> to do more.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>>
>>> "@iand apparently all of them: No (obvious) RDF export, no SPARQL
>>> API. Just
>>> some (broken!) hCalendar items."
>>>
>>> This is indeed a poor message we send out - why don't we eat our own
>>> dogfood? We have a couple of nice standards (RDFa, GRDDL, etc.) in
>>> this area
>>> and should well be able to demonstrate that we are able to use them,
>>> IMHO.
>>>
>>> Sorry for spoiling the party, but given the broad uptake of semantic
>>> technologies in the governmental area (US, UK), the eCommerce domain
>>> (GoodRelations), linked data stuff and Google and Yahoo! processing
>>> structured data, I can't seriously explain to my colleagues or other
>>> W3C
>>> customers why we don't have structured data (preferably in RDF)
>>> available at
>>> the new W3C site.
>>>
>>> Thoughts, anyone?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>      Michael
>>>
>>> [1] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856670048
>>> [2] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856830531
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>> Ireland, Europe
>>> Tel. +353 91 495730
>>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
>>> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:07:47 -0500
>>>> To: W3C Members <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>>>> Cc: <chairs@w3.org>
>>>> Subject: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>>> Resent-From: <chairs@w3.org>
>>>> Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:07:53 +0000
>>>>
>>>> Dear Advisory Committee Representatives and Chairs,
>>>>
>>>> Today W3C launched its new Web site:
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/
>>>>
>>>> We also launched the new Member site:
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/Member/
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you will find the new sites more usable. You will notice
>>>> that some pages are missing content; we plan to continue to add
>>>> content over time and invite your contributions (especially from
>>>> Working Groups).
>>>>
>>>> I expect that over the next few days we will be fixing bugs in style
>>>> sheets, and so forth. Feel free to send comments to site-
>>>> comments@w3.org.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Ian Jacobs, Head of W3C Communications
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>
>
>
>
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