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Re: New W3C Web Site Launched

From: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:18:21 +0100
To: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
CC: <site-comments@w3.org>, <chairs@w3.org>
Message-ID: <C6FB9C3D.93A8%michael.hausenblas@deri.org>

Ian, 

> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The RDF
> that we use
> is public:
> 
>   Group data:
>   http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
> 
>   Technical reports data:
>   http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf

Thanks! This is good news indeed, though seems not to have not been
communicated in an optimal way. I still think we can do more (re events,
specs, authorships, test cases, etc.) - so many wonderful vocabularies such
as DOAP, FOAF, SIOC, etc. just waiting to be used ... :)

> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.

Maybe I'm dense, but what are you trying to tell me, here ?

RDFa is just like RDF/XML a RDF serialisation. And a W3C standard. Over the
past two years we have successfully convinced quite a number of players
(from Drupal over Wordpress to the UK gov) out there that enabling RDFa
support is not only doable but straight-forward and worth it.

> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR searches),
> and we are likely
> to do more.

Very good! Looking forward to use yet another W3C standard and hence eating
more of our own dogfood ;)

Cheers,
      Michael

-- 
Dr. Michael Hausenblas
LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
Ireland, Europe
Tel. +353 91 495730
http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
http://sw-app.org/about.html



> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:39:32 -0500
> To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
> Cc: <site-comments@w3.org>, <chairs@w3.org>, W3C Members
> <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: New W3C Web Site Launched
> 
> 
> On 14 Oct 2009, at 2:50 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Ian,
>> 
>> Indeed, very nice job re design and usability. However, I think we
>> should
>> also take into account what our 'customers' think [1], [2]:
>> 
>> "so, are #semanticweb standards too complicated when even the new
>> #w3c site
>> doesn't use them? #stopsnakeoil"
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The RDF
> that we use
> is public:
> 
>   Group data:
>   http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
> 
>   Technical reports data:
>   http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
> 
> And there's lots more, such as the Talks data.
> 
> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
> 
> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR searches),
> and we are likely
> to do more.
> 
> Ian
> 
>> 
>> "@iand apparently all of them: No (obvious) RDF export, no SPARQL
>> API. Just
>> some (broken!) hCalendar items."
>> 
>> This is indeed a poor message we send out - why don't we eat our own
>> dogfood? We have a couple of nice standards (RDFa, GRDDL, etc.) in
>> this area
>> and should well be able to demonstrate that we are able to use them,
>> IMHO.
>> 
>> Sorry for spoiling the party, but given the broad uptake of semantic
>> technologies in the governmental area (US, UK), the eCommerce domain
>> (GoodRelations), linked data stuff and Google and Yahoo! processing
>> structured data, I can't seriously explain to my colleagues or other
>> W3C
>> customers why we don't have structured data (preferably in RDF)
>> available at
>> the new W3C site.
>> 
>> Thoughts, anyone?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>>      Michael
>> 
>> [1] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856670048
>> [2] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856830531
>> 
>> -- 
>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>> Ireland, Europe
>> Tel. +353 91 495730
>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
>> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:07:47 -0500
>>> To: W3C Members <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>>> Cc: <chairs@w3.org>
>>> Subject: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>> Resent-From: <chairs@w3.org>
>>> Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:07:53 +0000
>>> 
>>> Dear Advisory Committee Representatives and Chairs,
>>> 
>>> Today W3C launched its new Web site:
>>>  http://www.w3.org/
>>> 
>>> We also launched the new Member site:
>>>  http://www.w3.org/Member/
>>> 
>>> I hope that you will find the new sites more usable. You will notice
>>> that some pages are missing content; we plan to continue to add
>>> content over time and invite your contributions (especially from
>>> Working Groups).
>>> 
>>> I expect that over the next few days we will be fixing bugs in style
>>> sheets, and so forth. Feel free to send comments to site-
>>> comments@w3.org.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Ian Jacobs, Head of W3C Communications
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> --
> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
> 
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