Re: rdf:Property used as rdf:object in a triple

Hi Hans,

have you looked into Reification and did you try it out for your problem?

checkout reification, it will do what you need.
http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-n-aryRelations/#RDFReification
http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-rdf-primer-20040210/#reification

Or read this article, which explains why Reification may be what you may 
need:
or if you should go for indivivduals
http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-n-aryRelations/


greetings
Leo

Es begab sich aber da Hans Teijgeler zur rechten Zeit 05.11.2006 10:47 
folgendes schrieb:
> Hi Paul,
>  
> Thanks for your response! (and thanks as well to Chris and Frank).
>  
> Let me explain this with a simple example:
>
>    *
>       John isInvolvedWith Jane
>    *
>       Jane's father Pete givesApprovalTo that relationship
>
> This means that the isInvolvedWith relationship is the rdf:object of 
> the predicate 'givesApprovalTo'.
>  
> We then also want to represent the owl:Restriction that Fathers 
> approve such relationships of their daughters (granted, it's a bit 
> old-fashioned, but it's just an example).
>  
> This example is not rare. Another one is:
>
>    *
>       Nozzle N1 isWeldedTo Vessel V1
>    *
>       that welded connection isInspectedBy John
>
> I guess that I should start using reification, but quite honestly I am 
> too dumb to understand the text in [1]
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-mt/#Reif
>  
> Is reification at all possible in an OWL environment? It seems not to 
> be the case.
>  
> Mind you, we define "templates" with Restrictions in OWL that will be 
> used to validate the zillions of instances of those templates in RDF. 
> So for example we define, using 15926 model lingo, a template for 
> DirectConnection of two PossibleIndividuals, and make sure, using 
> owl:Restrictions, that any instance of that template has an instance 
> of PossibleIndividual at both sides. These templates can be 
> specialized by onProperty restrictions to, for example, a template for 
> welded connections that can only be between instances of 
> PossibleIndividual that can be welded at all.
>  
> I hope I haven't made this too complex :-)
>  
> Regards,
> Hans
>  
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Paul Gearon [mailto:gearon@ieee.org]
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 04, 2006 23:56
> *To:* Hans Teijgeler
> *Cc:* SW-forum
> *Subject:* Re: rdf:Property used as rdf:object in a triple
>
>
> On Nov 4, 2006, at 6:25 AM, Hans Teijgeler wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>  
>> rdf:Property is a subClassOf rdfs:Resource, so syntactically a 
>> property could be the rdf:object of a triple.
>>  
>> My question is, whether or not there is something against doing that 
>> from a semantics/reasoning point of view.
>>  
>> Can anybody shed some light on this?
>
> There's certainly no rule against it.  Reification requires it.  So 
> does rdfs:subPropertyOf.
>
> As for semantics... you can get away with a lot in RDF.  But if you 
> want to keep things as valid OWL-Lite or OWL-DL then you have to be 
> more careful, as properties are treated a little differently to other 
> resources.  Properties only start getting back the "privileges" of 
> other types of resources (like classes) when you get up to OWL-Full.
>
> Paul
>
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