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Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2009 April 22

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:24:25 -0400
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We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
April 22, from
          08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka
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on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.

Agenda
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1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

The next Technical Plenary (and AC meeting) week (TPAC week) 
will be Nov 2-6 in Santa Clara, California:
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/TPOverview.html#Future

The XML Core WG is tentatively planning to meet f2f 
during that week.

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Addison Phillips of I18N sent email about 
Unicode Normalization in XML 1.0 5th Ed.; see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Feb/0019

Paul provided a status update to Addison and I18N at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Mar/0005

We decided to add a note; Paul sent draft wording at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0019

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HTML request for clearer XML serialization
------------------------------------------
Henry raised the issue that HTML folks think the XML
spec is broken because it doesn't define error recovery
and doesn't discuss serialization.

ACTION to Henry:  Send email to the XML Core WG list
outlining the suggestion to define a serialization spec
including the rationale.

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Overlap between Powder and LEIRIs
---------------------------------
At
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Mar/0006
Henry writes:

Please review section 2.1.3 of the forthcoming draft of Protocol for
Web Description Resources (POWDER): Grouping of Resources [1]:  It
says things about e.g. entity expansion which I think at risk of
confusing proper layering, and it also doesn't seem to recognise the
LEIRI spec.

This spec just went back to Last Call.

John reviewed especially section 2.1.3 of the POWDER spec at
http://www.w3.org/2007/powder/Group/powder-grouping/20090309.html#canon
and only had an issue with spaces and + signs; see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0013

Per Thomas Roessler at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0018
the WG may have already dealt with this issue.

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Pointer Methods in RDF
----------------------
The ERT WG has issued a FPWD entitled "Pointer Methods in RDF":
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-Pointers-in-RDF-20090310/

Paul sent in the XML Core WG comment at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0020

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ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34 as requested at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0001
that they be allowed to use "xml-model" as a processing instruction
target name token.

John thinks we should approve this.  Henry worries that people
will then expect that this is something from W3C, but he will
not stand in the way.

We should consider adding entries for xml-stylesheet and xml-model 
to the xml namespace document at http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace.

We need a decision, action, and response to this request.


3.  XML 1.0

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-errata

The XML 1.0 5th Edition Recommendation is at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/

Henry forwarded some email from Makoto about the 5th Ed at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0024


4.  XML Test Suite.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite

ACTION to Richard:  Construct a test case for the XML test suite 
issues raised by Frans Englich:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 


5.  Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.0 and
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.1.

The NS 1.0 2nd Ed Errata document is at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/xml-names-errata

The NS PE doc is at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata.html

Richard added some discussion at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata.html#npe29
The WG agreed with his direction and asked that he go forward with it.

ACTION to Richard:  Fill in a proposed resolution for NPE29.

Henry will work with Richard on NPE29.

We will then plan to issue NS 1.0 3rd Ed.

Whether we put ns prefix undeclaration into NS 1.0 3rd Ed
remains an open issue.


6.  LEIRIs

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri

The WG Note defining LEIRIs is at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-leiri-20081103/

The following specs need to be revised to reference LEIRIs:
XML 1.0 6th Edition
XML 1.1 3rd Edition 
XML Base 2nd Edition
XLink 1.1 (First Edition)
XInclude 3rd Edition 

7.  xml:id

The xml:id Recommendation is at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/REC-xml-id-20050909/

John Cowan submitted a proposed erratum at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Jan/0009
and the WG had Consensus to do as follows:

 The sentence "A document that uses xml:id attributes that 
 have a declared type other than xs:ID will always generate 
 xml:id errors" in Appendix D.3 should be deleted.

ACTION to Henry:  Update the Errata document at
http://www.w3.org/2005/09/xml-id-errata

ACTION to Henry:  Think about the appropriateness of
the same sentence in Appendix D.2.

There was some more recent email on this at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/thread.ht
ml#msg26


8.  XML Base 2nd Edition 2nd Rec

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-base

The XML Base 2nd Edition Recommendation is at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/REC-xmlbase-20090128/


9.  XLink 1.1.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xlink1.1

The earlier XLink CR was published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 

The XLink 1.1 LC was published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-xlink11-20080331/

The LC review period ended 16 May 2008.

Norm has prepared a DoC at 
http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/05/xlinklc/

ACTION to Norm:  Update the DoC.

ACTION to Norm:  Update XLink 1.1 to refer to the LEIRI note.

There's an open question about whether the XSD/DTD 
should default the xlink:type attribute value. 
None of this effects our last call because the
XSD/DTD are not normative.

ACTION to Henry, John:  Produce a basic level
conformance XSD and RelaxNG schema for XLink.

We plan to skip CR and going directly to PR.

Paul drafted a PR transition request at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Mar/0013

The Implementation Report at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/01/xlink11-implementation
is pitiful.  We'll need to augment this to be able to request PR.

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Simon Cox, on behalf of the Open Geospatial Consortium, has
asked some questions about the XLink 1.1 XML Schema:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2009JanMar/
0004
and ht replied:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2009JanMar/
0005


10.  XInclude 3rd Edition

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude

XInclude 2nd Edition is at:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xinclude-20061115

See http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude for
LEIRI-related changes for the 3rd Edition.

ACTION to Daniel: Produce a PER-ready draft of XInclude 3rd Ed
with appropriate references to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs.


11.  Associating Stylesheets.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#assoc-ss

Associating stylesheets with XML version 1.0 is at:
http://www.w3.org/1999/06/REC-xml-stylesheet-19990629/

The Errata document is at:
http://www.w3.org/1999/06/REC-xml-stylesheet-19990629/errata

Simon has requested we consider revisions; see his email at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Feb/0002
and his suggested draft at
http://simon.html5.org/specs/xml-stylesheet5

See also Simon's email at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Feb/0014
outlining various issues.

Paul sent email giving Arbortext's behavior and other comments at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Feb/0022

Henry sent email giving Saxon behavior in various erroneous cases at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0025

Paul sent email with suggested resolutions at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0029
and there has been some follow-up email.


paul

[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0012
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