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Re: Restructuring the "available data" section (s)

From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:36:55 +0200
Message-ID: <4E526987.3000009@few.vu.nl>
To: public-xg-lld <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
Hi Marcia,

[...]
> BTW, the order of the bullet list used in the side deliverable is
> reversed: Datasets, Value Vocabularies and Metadata Element Sets.


Done: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section2&diff=5825&oldid=5816

Thanks for the warning,

Antoine


>
> Marcia
>
> On 8/20/11 10:55 AM, "Antoine Isaac"<aisaac@few.vu.nl>  wrote:
>
>> Hi Jodi,
>>
>> OK, I see the issue. Indeed the appendix on available data is a bit
>> unbalanced now, as it results from putting aside two things that were in
>> one bigger section before (together with the bits on "data availability"
>> that are in the "current situation" now):
>> - a brief presentation of the report
>> - more details on the issue of semantic connections (alignments).
>>
>> I can't really think of a way to introduce them in an elegant way. These
>> are basically left-overs, but left-overs that are important, and refered
>> to from the main report body. I hope readers will access them from that
>> main report that cites them. I also count on the fact that readers would
>> be less demanding, for a more technical appendix.
>>
>> And I'd be reluctant to remove them. It's good to have a teaser for the
>> side deliverable on data. And the part on alignment issues is quite
>> important. In fact via the blog comments we've been asked to write even
>> more on it...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, Antoine! I think that's really nice!
>>>
>>> I think I was mainly confused because there are two subsubsections
>>> there, under the heading "Available Vocabularies and Datasets":
>>> -An inventory of existing library linked data resources
>>> -The linking issue
>>> Are these two subsections part of some larger whole? If so *that*, to
>>> me, is what requires an introduction (i.e. explaining the larger whole).
>>> Alternately, perhaps they are each subsections, and we can get rid of
>>> the heading "Available Vocabularies and Datasets"?
>>>
>>> -Jodi
>>>
>>> On 19 Aug 2011, at 22:02, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jodi,
>>>>
>>>> I feel there was already a kind of introduction in the section you're
>>>> pointing at. Anyway, as it was missing some of your point, I've
>>>> extended it: the result can be seen at
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Vocabula
>>>> ries_Datasets_Section2&diff=5795&oldid=5777
>>>> I hope it is better now!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Antoine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Antoine -- sorry I wasn't clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusion#A
>>>>> vailable_Vocabularies_and_Datasets
>>>>> (aka this section:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_S
>>>>> ection2 )
>>>>>
>>>>> The inventory isn't introduced. I think it would help to explain why
>>>>> it's important and why people should read it.
>>>>>
>>>>> :) -Jodi
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 Aug 2011, at 23:30, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jodi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback! I think these are good ideas to take
>>>>>> onboard, but as the material on available data has changed quite a
>>>>>> lot in the past weeks, I'd like to be sure for which part, you'd
>>>>>> suggest this introductory paragraph :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - the "Data availability" sub-section (in "current situation") of
>>>>>> the main report
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusion#
>>>>>> Data_availability
>>>>>> has a small introduction
>>>>>> [
>>>>>> The success of linked library data relies on the ability of its
>>>>>> practitioners to identify, re-use or connect to existing datasets and
>>>>>> data models. Linked datasets and vocabularies that are essential in
>>>>>> the library and related domains, however, have previously been
>>>>>> unknown or unfamiliar to many. The LLD XG has thus initiated an
>>>>>> inventory of available library-related linked data, which is
>>>>>> presented in further detail in Section @@TODO@@ and has lead to the
>>>>>> observations below.
>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - the "Available Vocabularies and Datasets" technical section at the
>>>>>> end of the main report
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusion#
>>>>>> Available_Vocabularies_and_Datasets
>>>>>> also has stuff presenting the inventory
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that both may not address all your points. But together they
>>>>>> already give a lot. If I'm to adapt one of them, which one would you
>>>>>> recommend?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Antoine! :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it would be useful to add an introductory paragraph to the
>>>>>>> inventory, giving a motivation for providing it. Motivations might
>>>>>>> include
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -having a convenient place for librarians to become more familiar
>>>>>>> with key vocabularies
>>>>>>> --due to general lack of familiarity
>>>>>>> --due to the importance of reusing vocabularies
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -showing the adoption of semweb and the maturity of existing
>>>>>>> vocabularies
>>>>>>> --there are many areas with mature vocabularies
>>>>>>> --there are other areas where libraries could participate in the
>>>>>>> innovation if they desire
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe there are other reasons? The intro would help clarify the
>>>>>>> importance of this section in the whole report, as well as indicate
>>>>>>> the appropriate audience for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jodi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 23:23, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the last telecon it was agreed that the former "available data"
>>>>>>>> section [1] could live in the final report, on the condition that
>>>>>>>> it is split in two parts:
>>>>>>>> - one fitting the new "current situation" section [2]
>>>>>>>> - the other being put at the end of the report, to give more
>>>>>>>> details [3]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To address complains about the length of the proposed sub-section
>>>>>>>> for "current situation", I've tried to shorten it, and put some of
>>>>>>>> the material in the separate section at the end [5]. I've also
>>>>>>>> created a small intro in the "current situation" sub-section, which
>>>>>>>> refers to our survey and the appendix section.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Feedback is much welcome. The paragraphs are still the longest
>>>>>>>> ones in the "current situation" section, but I do hope they fit
>>>>>>>> better now...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Voca
>>>>>>>> bularies_Datasets_Section&oldid=5672
>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusio
>>>>>>>> n-Multiple_Reports#Data_availability
>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusio
>>>>>>>> n-Multiple_Reports#Available_Vocabularies_and_Datasets
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [4]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_V
>>>>>>>> ocabularies_Datasets_As_Current_Situation&diff=5753&oldid=5670
>>>>>>>> [5]
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Voca
>>>>>>>> bularies_Datasets_Section2&diff=5754&oldid=5710
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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