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Re: R19. End user extensions should be available both on desktop and in cloud

From: Eric S. Johansson <esj@harvee.org>
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 12:21:04 -0500
Message-ID: <4D011000.8020707@harvee.org>
To: Robert Brown <Robert.Brown@microsoft.com>
CC: "Olli@pettay.fi" <Olli@pettay.fi>, Bjorn Bringert <bringert@google.com>, Dan Burnett <dburnett@voxeo.com>, "public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org" <public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org>
On 12/8/2010 4:24 PM, Robert Brown wrote:
> I think that's right. It originally came from Eric's post in September:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Sep/0015.html
> In that context, it seems to be about a specific style of application that could be built with the API, rather than the API itself.  So I agree it's out of scope.

It wasn't intended to be a specific style of application. It was a poorly worded 
attempt to convey a fundamental concept in speech enabled environments.  Any 
(web) application is going to be a complete disaster for speech users ( google 
apps [1]).  in order to make an application speech usable, it will be necessary 
to create a whole new user interface layer around the application in order to 
drive it.  If the application is designed to be used with speech he won't be as 
much of a disaster but you'll still need the basic grammars and actions to drive 

If you assume that all applications will come with a speech user interface 
complete and usable from day one, then you're right, r19 is out of scope. If you 
want to require that any application user interface can be modified or extended 
based on the user's needs then we need something like r19.

I would suggest a little more discussion on r19 because end-user customizations 
for user interfaces is one of the major differences between visual user 
interfaces and aural ones.  I'd like to make sure what I'm seeing as important 
is the same thing as the rest of you.

--- eric

[1] Not intending to pick on Google apps it's just that they are very common and 
almost completely unusable if you use speech recognition. I can't even use 
Google mail with speech. It's part nuance, part browser.
Received on Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:23:10 UTC

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