Re: Requirement for 3W interop standard

Paola and all,

Sounds like in OCHA schema, Organization is more of a conceptual entity than physical entity (ie physically located). Offices are the ones involved directly in the activities and indirectly link OrgPerson to the organization. However we should consider the situations where local agencies help with response activities, for example, or where volunteers are part of the task force. Offices work in general sectors (ie provide general services) but they have specific responsibilities in the context of a given activities. I agree that some naming don’t represent the concepts very well. It would be more helpful, if you could be more specific. As we get other schemas, we will refine the concepts too. 

Regards,
Mandana




From: paola.dimaio@gmail.com 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:03 PM
To: Mandana Sotoodeh 
Cc: public-xg-eiif 
Subject: Re: Requirement for 3W interop standard


Mandana, Paolo

Great great thanks for starting this up, it looks like there are some conceptual challenges ahead

I am looking at the diagram on the fly (did not study in depth), and have a few questions

1. I can see no link between organisation and orgperson, should there be a relationship there? I am not sure if orgperson main relation should be office, sound weak

2. does Location not have any attributes? should there be something written in the box

3. service links to orgperson with relationship -hasobjectives- not sure I understand, a few other relations seem brittle

4. I wonder if there is a rule as to how to name in the singular/plural the entities and the relationships and attributes (sing or plu, should be constant?), as well as the choice of names for them, if should be made more logical and consistent as much as possible
I wonder if the relationships whould have names more semantically alighed with the entities they relate to, less ambiguous kind of thing

will study further

thanks again

best

PDM



On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Mandana Sotoodeh <mandanas@ece.ubc.ca> wrote:

  Hello everyone, 

  Please find the main concepts derived from OCHA schema here:

  http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/eiif/wiki/images/7/71/W3-Model.pdf

  Renato kindly organized them graphically. 

  Paolo, thank you for providing the documents. 

  Your feedback is appreciated: if you have any specific scenario in mind (in the boundary of W3) that you think the model may not address well; such as volunteers or activities for day to day emergency operations (like drug abuse) as opposed to emergency response (like evacuation), or any suggestions for naming of concepts (ex. office or emergency). As we get other schemas/models, we will revise it accordingly. 

  Thanks very much, 

  Mandana




  From: Renato Iannella 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:29 PM
  To: public-xg-eiif 
  Cc: Vincent Lalieu 
  Subject: Re: Requirement for 3W interop standard




  On 9 Jul 2008, at 18:46, Paul Currion wrote:


    The 3W / W3 schema can be found athttp://www.humanitarianinfo.org/imtoolbox/02_Standard_Products/01_W3/3W_Tool/3wSchema2_0.pdf



  Thanks Paul. 


  This is a good opportunity to review the Use Case [1] against the OCHA Schema and determine any gaps.
  Then look at the outcome and move towards defining the *core8 elements of a W3/3W "standard".
  Any volunteers to take this on?


  Cheers...  Renato Iannella
  NICTA


  [1] <http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/eiif/wiki/WWWWCoord>





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