Re: Requirement for 3W interop standard

Hi Mandana,

Sorry for my delay sending this. But here is the Sahana schema filtered by
the tables relevant to the Sahana 3W (called Organization Registry in the
system). I attach the well commented SQL script file and I hope this is OK
to work with. If you need to get more information on how the data work in
Sahana I can recommend the demo site at http://demo.sahana.lk. Let me know
if you need it in another format.

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Mandana Sotoodeh <mandanas@ece.ubc.ca>wrote:

>  Paola and all,
>
> Sounds like in OCHA schema, Organization is more of a conceptual entity
> than physical entity (ie physically located). Offices are the ones involved
> directly in the activities and indirectly link OrgPerson to the
> organization. However we should consider the situations where local agencies
> help with response activities, for example, or where volunteers are part of
> the task force. Offices work in general sectors (ie provide general
> services) but they have specific responsibilities in the context of a given
> activities. I agree that some naming don't represent the concepts very
> well. It would be more helpful, if you could be more specific. As we get
> other schemas, we will refine the concepts too.
>
> Regards,
> Mandana
>
>
>
>  *From:* paola.dimaio@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Friday, August 01, 2008 8:03 PM
> *To:* Mandana Sotoodeh <mandanas@ece.ubc.ca>
> *Cc:* public-xg-eiif <public-xg-eiif@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Requirement for 3W interop standard
>
> Mandana, Paolo
>
> Great great thanks for starting this up, it looks like there are some
> conceptual challenges ahead
>
> I am looking at the diagram on the fly (did not study in depth), and have a
> few questions
>
> 1. I can see no link between organisation and orgperson, should there be a
> relationship there? I am not sure if orgperson main relation should be
> office, sound weak
>
> 2. does Location not have any attributes? should there be something written
> in the box
>
> 3. service links to orgperson with relationship -hasobjectives- not sure I
> understand, a few other relations seem brittle
>
> 4. I wonder if there is a rule as to how to name in the singular/plural the
> entities and the relationships and attributes (sing or plu, should be
> constant?), as well as the choice of names for them, if should be made more
> logical and consistent as much as possible
> I wonder if the relationships whould have names more semantically alighed
> with the entities they relate to, less ambiguous kind of thing
>
> will study further
>
> thanks again
>
> best
>
> PDM
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Mandana Sotoodeh <mandanas@ece.ubc.ca>wrote:
>
>>  Hello everyone,
>>
>> Please find the main concepts derived from OCHA schema here:
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/eiif/wiki/images/7/71/W3-Model.pdf
>>
>> Renato kindly organized them graphically.
>>
>> Paolo, thank you for providing the documents.
>>
>> Your feedback is appreciated: if you have any specific scenario in
>> mind (in the boundary of W3) that you think the model may not address well;
>> such as volunteers or activities for day to day emergency operations (like
>> drug abuse) as opposed to emergency response (like evacuation), or any
>> suggestions for naming of concepts (ex. office or emergency). As we get
>> other schemas/models, we will revise it accordingly.
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>>
>> Mandana
>>
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Renato Iannella <renato@nicta.com.au>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:29 PM
>>  *To:* public-xg-eiif <public-xg-eiif@w3.org>
>> *Cc:* Vincent Lalieu <lalieu@un.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: Requirement for 3W interop standard
>>
>>
>>  On 9 Jul 2008, at 18:46, Paul Currion wrote:
>>
>> The 3W / W3 schema can be found at
>> http://www.humanitarianinfo.org/imtoolbox/02_Standard_Products/01_W3/3W_Tool/3wSchema2_0.pdf
>>
>>
>> Thanks Paul.
>> This is a good opportunity to review the Use Case [1] against the OCHA
>> Schema and determine any gaps.
>> Then look at the outcome and move towards defining the *core8 elements of
>> a W3/3W "standard".
>> Any volunteers to take this on?
>>
>>  Cheers...  Renato Iannella
>> NICTA
>>
>> [1] <http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/eiif/wiki/WWWWCoord>
>>
>>
>
>
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> Paola Di Maio
> School of IT
> www.mfu.ac.th
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