[VER 3] Agenda: WS-Policy WG distributed meeting 45 - 2007-06-20

Added new CR issue 4672

Christopher Ferris
STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris
phone: +1 508 234 2986

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Added links to new drafts, updated threads and action items 

Cheers, 

Christopher Ferris
STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris
phone: +1 508 234 2986 

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Agenda: WS-Policy WG distributed meeting 45 - 2007-06-20 
 
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1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair 

Regrets June 20: Ashok, Charlton (partial), Dale 
Regrets June 27: Frederick 
 
a) Scribe List:

William Henry (Jun 20) 
---------------------- 
Dimitar Angelov 
Sanjiva Weerawarana 
Ruchith Fernando 
Tom Jordahl 
Vladislav Bezrukov 
Symon Chang 
Doug Davis 
Jacques Durand 
Steve Jones 
Mohammad Makarechian 
Jonathan Marsh 
Arnaud Meyniel 
Sanjay Patil 
Skip Snow 
Jeff Mischkinsky 
Sanka Samaranayake 
Mark Little 
Glen Daniels 
Anthony Nadalin 
Daniel Roth 
Fabian Ritzmann 
Sergey Beryozkin 
Charlton Barreto 
David Orchard 
Abbie Barbir 
Dale Moberg 
Frederick Hirsch 
Mark Temple-Raston 
Dale Moberg 
Paul Knight 
Yakov Sverdlov 
Prasad Yendluri 
Maryann Hondo 
Ashok Malhotra 
Monica Martin 
Felix Sasaki 
Asir Vedamuthu 
Toufic Boubez (Jun 13) 
 
b) Scribe FAQ (Updated) 
Member only:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html 
 
2. Review and approval of WG minutes, Chair 
 
a) Review and approval of draft June 13 telcon minutes 
       http://www.w3.org/2007/06/13-ws-policy-minutes.html 
 
3. Schedule and future WG meetings, Chair 
 
a) Future meetings 
       http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings 
 
b) Tue-Thu Jul 17-19 F2F meeting in Dublin hosted by Iona 
       http://www.w3.org/2007/07/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html

c) PR schedule 
 
1) May 30th - Editors to deliver the updated Framework and Attachment 
drafts 
DONE. 

2) June 5th - Refresh the Framework & Attachment CR drafts and Primer WD 
DONE. 
       http://www.w3.org/News/2007#item114

3) June 13th - Close remaining CR issues 
DONE. 
 
4) June 20th - Editors to deliver the updated Framework and Attachment 
drafts 
 
5) June 27th - WG decision to request the director to advance the 
Framework and Attachment drafts to PR 
 
6) June 27th - Co-chairs to create the request to advance the Framework 
and Attachment drafts to PR

7) July 2 12noon EDT - Co-chairs and staff contact to meet with the 
director 
 
4. Editorial team report 
Current Editors drafts: 
       http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/#drafts

Candidate PR drafts and new stable ED Guidelines draft: 
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0065.html 

5. Review action items, Chair 
Open action items: 
Member only: 
       http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open 
 
ACTION-279 Chris Ferris and Paul to engage Bob Freund on Toms points 
Status: In progress. 
 
ACTION-300 Paul Cotton to make sure that the additional suggestions are 
not lost for the non-normative docs related to issue 4554 
 
ACTION-304 Chris Ferris to look at sections 5.5.1 and 5.5.2 and suggest 
additional text

ACTION-306 Chris Ferris to review BP 23 and associated text, Section 5.7. 
 
ACTION-312 Toufic to propose a different wording for Good Practice G2 [Bug 
4566] 
DONE: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0054.html 

ACTION-314 Asir to clean up dashboard summary, esp the cells indicating 
zero of zero 
 
ACTION-315 Maryann to follow up on lax intersection testing comments 
 
ACTION-316 Asir [and other WG members] to respond with comments to Maryann 
on proposal in June msg 33
DONE: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0052.html 
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0069.html
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0070.html
ACTION-317 Maryann to open new guidelines issues (for) based on on content 
in June Msg 33 
 
ACTION-318 Editors to work with Maryann to figure which of the issues 
resulting June msg 33 are doable before July F2F 
 
6. WS-Policy Call for Implementations, Chair 
 
a) Interop scenarios release 3 
      
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0035.html 
 
b) CR dashboard summary 
      
 http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/interop/results/dashboard-summary.html 

Status: We have now passed our CR exit criteria!!! 
 
ACTION-314 Asir to clean up dashboard summary, esp the cells indicating 
zero of zero 
 
c) ISSUE 4582 test cases need coverage of nested policy for lax interse... 

       http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 
Status: We decided at the Jun 13 meeting that we would not block the CR on 
these additional test cases.  If we can get multiple implementation 
reports for these test cases then we will include that evidence in the PR 
request. 
 
ACTION-307 Asir to send updates to proposed new test cases (round 5) 
regarding normal form of output 
DONE.  See: 
      
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0025.html 
 
ACTION-315 Maryann to follow up on lax intersection testing comments 
 
IBM results of round 5 (proposed) testing 
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0064.html 

Corrected round 5 test cases: 
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-interop/2007Jun/att-0011/interop.zip 

        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0053.html 

d) Time table for voting to exit CR 
Status: We are currently planning to vote to exit CR on Jun 27. 
 
7. Liaison items 
 
a) ACTION-279 Chris and Paul to engage Bob Freund on Toms points 
Status: Ongoing.  Note that the WS-Addressing Metadata CR request has been 
made: 
 
8. CR issues 
 
a) Bugzilla list: 
       http://tinyurl.com/yp9wp6 
Status: New issue 4672
        http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4672

b) Treatment of optional/ignorable attributes in framework and primer, 
Sergey 
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0047.html 
Note: is this a CR issue? 

9. Primer Document 
Latest editor's draft: 
      
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0079.html 
 
a) Bugzilla list: 
       http://tinyurl.com/2a5uwj 
 
b) Issue 4376: [Primer] need to change qname for the ws-addr metadata 
elements in examples 
Status: Left open to catch any later changes WS-Addressing Metadata.  We 
expect to process this issue at the Dublin F2F. 
 
c) Other primer issues 
 
10. Guidelines issues 
 
a) Bugzilla list: 
http://tinyurl.com/ywtogs

b) [Bug 4566]: Guideline G2 to be reconsidered, Toufic 
       http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4566
      
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0214.html 
 
ACTION-312 Toufic to propose a different wording for Good Practice G2 [Bug 
4566] 
DONE: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0054.html 

c) [Bug 3978]: Clarify if Section 7 on defining new policy attachment 
mechanisms is necessary, Dan Roth 
       http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3978 
      
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0102.html 
 
ACTION-259 Maryann Hondo to provide a revised proposal for Issue 3978. 
DONE. See: 
      
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0112.html 
 
ACTION-273 Maryann to send a diff version of the proposed changes to the 
Guidelines document re issue 3978 
DONE.  See: 
      
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0016.html 
 
ACTION-313 Maryann to review latest Primer and Guidelines with regards to 
her four points related to [Bug 3978] 
DONE.  See: 
      
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0033.html
Note: The above email covers AIs 286, 303, 305, and 313: 
Reply from David O: 
      
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0036.html
Status: At the Jun 13 meeting the following action items were assigned 
relating to the 2007Jun/0033.html proposal: 
 
ACTION-316 Asir [and other WG members] to respond with comments to Maryann 
on proposal in June msg 33 
DONE: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0052.html 
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0063.html
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0069.html
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0070.html

ACTION-317 Maryann to open new guidelines issues (for) based on on content 
in June Msg 33 
DONE: 
        Issue 4654: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0055.html 
        Issue 4660: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0057.html 
        Issue 4662: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0058.html 
        Issue 4663: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0059.html 
        Issue 4664: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0060.html 
        Issue 4661: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0061.html 

ACTION-318 Editors to work with Maryann to figure which of the issues 
resulting June msg 33 are doable before July F2F 
 
d) [Bug 3988]: Section 8 doesn't illustrate how to design an assertion., 
Asir 
       http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3988 
      
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0112.html 
Email discussion thread: 
      
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0000.html 
Status: Awaiting progress on new EDs with best practices reflected. We 
expect to process this issue at the Dublin F2F. 
 
e) Issue 4375: [Guidelines] need to change qname for the ws-addr metadata 
elements in examples 
Status: This issue is effectively resolved, but left open until WS-A 
Metatada goes CR.  We expect to process this issue at the Dublin F2F. 
 
f) Other Guidelines issues 
 
11. Adjourn 
 
Christopher Ferris
STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy 
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com 
blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris 
phone: +1 508 234 2986 
  

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