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RE: Abstract Bindable Choreography

From: Stephen White <swhite@SeeBeyond.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 13:45:11 -0800
Message-ID: <EDDE2977F3D216428E903370E3EBDDC99318DC@MAIL01.stc.com>
To: "Ricky Ho" <riho@cisco.com>, "Martin Chapman" <martin.chapman@oracle.com>, "Burdett, David" <david.burdett@commerceone.com>, "WS Choreography (E-mail)" <public-ws-chor@w3.org>

In terms of using diagrams for helping to understanding the use cases, I would like to recommend using BPMN, which is a standard being developed by BPMI. This form of diagramming is being developed by business analysts to promote easy understanding of internal and B2B (choreography) business processes and their relationships. Technical mappings from the diagrams to XML languages are being developed for BPEL4WS and BPML. Mappings to specifications like WSCI are planned and certainly the output of the Choreography Working Group would mapped by the developers of BPMN.
	
I have sent in some examples of these diagrams for some of the use cases.

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2003Apr/0062.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2003Apr/0059.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2003Mar/0228.html

Any comments?

-Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Ricky Ho [mailto:riho@cisco.com]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:52 PM
To: Martin Chapman; 'Burdett, David'; 'WS Choreography (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: Abstract Bindable Choreography


I think David's XML model serve the purpose of the choreography definition
and I don't see why it can't be a potential candidate for our choice.  I
don't think David is proposing a diagram notation, it is just for helping
to understand his example.

Rgds, Ricky

At 10:11 AM 4/4/2003 -0800, Martin Chapman wrote:

>David,
>
>I have a strong feeling that you can get what you want by exstiing
>technologies such as UML. In the past I have used use cases and activity
>diagrams to express reusable interactions between parties. Diagramtic
>notations are explicitly out of scope of our charter, and I'm not sure
>if there is any benefit in a specific xml language  to express the same
>thing.
>
>Martin.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-ws-chor-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:public-ws-chor-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Burdett, David
> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:09 AM
> > To: WS Choreography (E-mail)
> > Subject: Abstract Bindable Choreography
> >
> >
> > There has been some discussion around the idea of an abstract
> > bindable choreography so I thought I would provide an example
> > in the form of a diagram (PDF) which shows the flow
> > associated with the placement of an order and an XML
> > representation of the same in a declarative style. I strongly
> > suggest you look at the diagram first.
> >
> > Comments welcome ;-)
> >
> > David
> >  <<PlaceOrderChoreography.pdf>>
> >  <<PlaceOrderChoreography.xml>>
> >
> > Director, Product Management, Web Services
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