W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-ws-chor@w3.org > April 2003

RE: Abstract Bindable Choreography

From: Martin Chapman <martin.chapman@oracle.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 15:11:20 -0800
To: "'Stephen White'" <swhite@SeeBeyond.com>, "'Ricky Ho'" <riho@cisco.com>, "'Burdett, David'" <david.burdett@commerceone.com>, "'WS Choreography \(E-mail\)'" <public-ws-chor@w3.org>
Message-ID: <006a01c2faff$81129b80$6501a8c0@us.oracle.com>

Is there a reference to where this notation is defined?

Martin.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen White [mailto:swhite@SeeBeyond.com] 
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:45 PM
> To: Ricky Ho; Martin Chapman; Burdett, David; WS Choreography (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Abstract Bindable Choreography
> 
> 
> In terms of using diagrams for helping to understanding the 
> use cases, I would like to recommend using BPMN, which is a 
> standard being developed by BPMI. This form of diagramming is 
> being developed by business analysts to promote easy 
> understanding of internal and B2B (choreography) business 
> processes and their relationships. Technical mappings from 
> the diagrams to XML languages are being developed for BPEL4WS 
> and BPML. Mappings to specifications like WSCI are planned 
> and certainly the output of the Choreography Working Group 
> would mapped by the developers of BPMN.
> 	
> I have sent in some examples of these diagrams for some of 
> the use cases.
> 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2003Apr/0062.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2003Apr/0059.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2003Mar/0228.html
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> -Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ricky Ho [mailto:riho@cisco.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:52 PM
> To: Martin Chapman; 'Burdett, David'; 'WS Choreography (E-mail)'
> Subject: RE: Abstract Bindable Choreography
> 
> 
> I think David's XML model serve the purpose of the 
> choreography definition and I don't see why it can't be a 
> potential candidate for our choice.  I don't think David is 
> proposing a diagram notation, it is just for helping to 
> understand his example.
> 
> Rgds, Ricky
> 
> At 10:11 AM 4/4/2003 -0800, Martin Chapman wrote:
> 
> >David,
> >
> >I have a strong feeling that you can get what you want by exstiing 
> >technologies such as UML. In the past I have used use cases and 
> >activity diagrams to express reusable interactions between parties. 
> >Diagramtic notations are explicitly out of scope of our charter, and 
> >I'm not sure if there is any benefit in a specific xml language  to 
> >express the same thing.
> >
> >Martin.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: public-ws-chor-request@w3.org 
> > > [mailto:public-ws-chor-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Burdett, David
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:09 AM
> > > To: WS Choreography (E-mail)
> > > Subject: Abstract Bindable Choreography
> > >
> > >
> > > There has been some discussion around the idea of an abstract 
> > > bindable choreography so I thought I would provide an 
> example in the 
> > > form of a diagram (PDF) which shows the flow associated with the 
> > > placement of an order and an XML representation of the same in a 
> > > declarative style. I strongly suggest you look at the 
> diagram first.
> > >
> > > Comments welcome ;-)
> > >
> > > David
> > >  <<PlaceOrderChoreography.pdf>>  <<PlaceOrderChoreography.xml>>
> > >
> > > Director, Product Management, Web Services
> > > Commerce One
> > > 4440 Rosewood Drive, Pleasanton, CA 94588, USA
> > > Tel/VMail: +1 (925) 520 4422; Cell: +1 (925) 216 7704
> >mailto:david.burdett@commerceone.com; Web: http://www.commerceone.com
> 
Received on Friday, 4 April 2003 18:13:09 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Tuesday, 6 January 2015 21:00:58 UTC