Re: Distributed Infrastructure (Re: alpha 3 version of IG charter for review)

Hi Carsten

Thank you for following up on the decentralised, peer-to-peer IoT subject.

It's understandable you include decentralised, peer-to-peer approach in a
separate and broader discussion within IRTF. We are facing similar
challenges with regards to the the scope of the project. In order manage
devices via a DHT/blockchain, first our proposed underlying infrastructure
has to address generic issues. These are contact discovery, transport and
storage which are generic functionalities and system components and these
are not exclusive to IoT, but part of all decentralised systems. So I am
sure there is synergy between decentralized WoT and IRTF. Hopefully our
core components will be reusable in different type of use cases. I started
a protocol design document at
https://github.com/w3c/web-of-things-framework/blob/master/documents/p2p/protocol.md
which
hopefully will be a collaborative effort to come up with a protocol and
perhaps IETF standard. Also, I will definitely sign up to your discussion
and trying to contribute.

Please book me a slot in the July 17-22 Berlin event. I will be happy to
present via a video link our decentralized WoT approach and the application
we are developing within the Node.js project at
https://github.com/w3c/web-of-things-framework
<https://github.com/w3c/web-of-things-framework/blob/master/documents/p2p/protocol.md>.
Right now, we have already a decentralized Raspberry Pi implementation and
the solution should be more matured by July.

I hope IRTF and WoT will collaborate. It would be great to see more and
more open source developers work on the WoT project!

Regards,
Tibor
















On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:

> Hi Tibor,
>
> > decentralised, peer-to-peer,
> > blockchain based Internet-of-Things
>
> The Internet Research Task Force (IRTF) has recently become quite
> interested in approaches towards enabling distributed infrastructure in
> the Internet.  We had a first side meeting at IETF95, and right now, we
> are discussing what a productive focus of work in this space could be.
>
> We are not limiting ourselves to IoT viewpoints here, which is why this
> discussion is not happening in the Thing-to-Thing Research Group
> (T2TRG).  Instead, we have set up a separate mailing list for this
> discussion, which you are welcome to join:
>
> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/din
>
> If you have ideas how standards could enable distributed infrastructure
> with a view specifically to IoT, T2TRG would be very interested in
> hearing about those.  Our next f2f meeting will be at the Berlin IETF
> (July 17-22); maybe we can get you interested in presenting a short talk
> there?
>
> I'll leave it to the W3C regulars to discuss whether this area of
> research should be part of the WoT IG charter -- the IRTF certainly is
> interested in collaboration, as well as in taking input for specific
> research objectives and opportunities.
>
> Grüße, Carsten
>