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Re: Attribution to MSDN on JavaScript pages

From: Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:55:27 -0800
To: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>, Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com>
CC: Max Polk <maxpolk@gmail.com>, Eliezer Bernart <eliezer.bernart@gmail.com>, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, Renoir Boulanger <renoir@w3.org>, WebPlatform Public List <public-webplatform@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CF0BEB20.C9D09%jburdeki@adobe.com>

If it’s easier, though, maybe we could just get a map between the the webplatform.org page and the MSDN page? That way, we wouldn’t hold up the final import but it would be easier for folks to find the page.

Whatever is the most efficient.

Thanks much, Max and all!


Julee Burdekin
Content Strategist
Adobe Web Platform

From: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com<mailto:phistuck@gmail.com>>
Date: Monday, January 27, 2014 at 12:14 AM
To: Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com<mailto:Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com>>
Cc: Max Polk <maxpolk@gmail.com<mailto:maxpolk@gmail.com>>, Eliezer Bernart <eliezer.bernart@gmail.com<mailto:eliezer.bernart@gmail.com>>, julee <jburdeki@adobe.com<mailto:jburdeki@adobe.com>>, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org<mailto:schepers@w3.org>>, Renoir Boulanger <renoir@w3.org<mailto:renoir@w3.org>>, WebPlatform Public List <public-webplatform@w3.org<mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: Attribution to MSDN on JavaScript pages

I second Eliot. Thank you very much!


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:13 AM, Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com<mailto:Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com>> wrote:
Hi Max & Phistuck.

This is really great. I totally appreciate all of your effort. Two questions:

Can this be done _after_ the pages are created and people start using them?
If not, how long do you think this will take?

My thoughts are that it’s adequate for people to use the content and—if necessary to see the source—navigate the TOC on MSDN. If it will take weeks longer to directly attribute the content, I’d vote for getting the content out there with the top-level reference. Also, if it will take an exorbitant amount of your time, I’d say you’ve done enough already. On the other hand, if this is something you can take care of in a little bit of time and you feel generous enough to donate that, it would be helpful.

Theoretically, this could also be done by hand, by WPW volunteers who are verifying the accuracy of the migration.

Hope this helps,


From: Max Polk [mailto:maxpolk@gmail.com<mailto:maxpolk@gmail.com>]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 2:22 PM
To: Eliot Graff; PhistucK
Cc: Eliezer Bernart; Julee Burdekin; Doug Schepers; Renoir Boulanger; WebPlatform Public List

Subject: Re: Attribution to MSDN on JavaScript pages

PhistucK wrote:
>>Adding the actual original article link is way better for imported content. If it is possible, I strongly prefer it.

Eliot wrote:

Unfortunately, I do not know if the URL for each data has been preserved and can readily be imported (I don’t think they were; that was the reason that the HTML, CSS, and other pages Microsoft donated point to the Internet Explorer API Reference page).Hi Phistuck.

I discovered a scheme to obtain all the original urls for the JavaScript reference pages, but it will take a bit of time to get it to work just right.  Basically you have to do what the browser is doing when you click to expand the sections, except you do it from a script that pretends to expand each section one at a time, iterating and recursing over all the sections until there are no more children.  Then you map the titles and urls back to the page names we are using and correct the attribution section.  A somewhat larger effort but if it's good information maybe it's worth it.

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