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Re: URL aliases for WPD without /wiki

From: Ryan Lane <rlane32@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:15:10 -0700
Message-ID: <CALKgCA1CJhOsq4Q3SwigqPQb2WjGBTPJjQH8AQmjSUdX9Z=1uQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Lea Verou <lea@w3.org>
Cc: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, Denis Ah-Kang <denis@w3.org>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
Let's avoid using .htaccess. It's better if these things are done through
the server configuration. It's easier to troubleshoot things when server
configuration is done in a single place, and it's easier to configuration
manage it.


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Lea Verou <lea@w3.org> wrote:

> Denis,
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> Could you go ahead with it, please?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Cheers,
> Lea
>
> Lea Verou
> W3C developer relations
> http://w3.org/people/all#leahttp://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou
>
>
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> On Mar 21, 2013, at 22:25, Doug Schepers wrote:
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> > Hey-
> >
> > On 3/21/13 2:03 PM, Lea Verou wrote:
> >> Implementing it should be very simple, just add two [OR] conditions in
> >> the .htaccess so that it applies when the host is webplatform.org
> >> <http://webplatform.org> or www.webplatform.org
> >> <http://www.webplatform.org>.
> >> Doug, do you think it’s a good idea?
> >
> > Yes, seems smart to me.
> >
> > Regards-
> > -Doug
> >
> >> Lea Verou
> >> W3C developer relations
> >> http://w3.org/people/all#leahttp://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 21, 2013, at 19:53, Ryan Lane wrote:
> >>
> >>> Likely a good idea. We do something like this with Wikimedia sites as
> >>> well; for instance:
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/Main_Page
> >>>
> >>> We should probably add nice pages for 404s and other errors as well.
> >>>
> >>> - Ryan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Lea Verou <lea@w3.org
> >>> <mailto:lea@w3.org>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>    What do you guys think about also redirecting URLs that are not
> >>>    found (404) from webplatform.org/svg <http://webplatform.org/svg>
> >>>    or www.webplatform.org/svg <http://www.webplatform.org/svg> to
> >>>    docs.webplatform.org/wiki/svg
> >>>    <http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/svg>? I often make the mistake
> >>>    of leaving out the "docs" subdomain and get an ugly 404.
> >>>
> >>>    Lea Verou
> >>>    W3C developer relations
> >>>    http://w3.org/people/all#leahttp://lea.verou.me
> >>>    <http://lea.verou.me/> ✿ @leaverou
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    On Mar 20, 2013, at 17:01, Doug Schepers wrote:
> >>>
> >>>    > Hey, folks-
> >>>    >
> >>>    > On 3/20/13 9:02 AM, Denis Ah-Kang wrote:
> >>>    >> On 03/19/2013 12:51 PM, Ryan Lane wrote:
> >>>    >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Lea Verouwrote:
> >>>    >>>
> >>>    >>>     I’m not sure if I’m in the minority, but I often type WPD
> >>>    URLs by
> >>>    >>>     hand, so typing the /wiki part every time is tedious. I was
> >>>    >>>     wondering if we could set up redirects for the top level
> >>>    paths (e.g.
> >>>    >>>     /css, /html, /svg etc) which redirect to the URL with the
> >>>    /wiki part
> >>>    >>>     so that for example [1] becomes [2].
> >>>    >>>
> >>>    >>>     Doug likes the idea but is concerned about potential SEO
> >>>    >>>     implications. I think that if we do it with 301 redirects
> >>>    it will be
> >>>    >>>     fine for SEO, but I might be wrong (?).
> >>>    >>>     Denis, is it possible? I think it could be done with a few
> >>>    rules in
> >>>    >>>     the .htaccess, perhaps without even having to explicitly
> >>>    list all
> >>>    >>>     the top level categories (i.e. test if the path starts
> >>>    with /wiki
> >>>    >>>     and if not, add it).
> >>>    >>>     Everyone else, do you think it's a good idea?
> >>>    >>>
> >>>    >>> This shouldn't hurt SEO. Assuming this structure won't change
> >>>    much in
> >>>    >>> the future, it seems sane. Changes in the structure could harm
> >>>    SEO if
> >>>    >>> we're unable to properly map the redirects to the new
> >>>    structure (dead
> >>>    >>> links are bad). The rewrite rules for this should be easy-ish.
> >>>    >>
> >>>    >> I added the redirects directly in the docs apache
> >>>    configuration. Let me
> >>>    >> know if there's any issue.
> >>>    >
> >>>    > Thanks, Denis, seems to work fine!
> >>>    >
> >>>    > (To clarify, I didn't have concerns per se about SEO, I just
> >>>    wanted to get community opinion and buy-in, in case we were
> >>>    missing something.)
> >>>    >
> >>>    > Regards-
> >>>    > -Doug
> >>>    >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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