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Re: Template protection, template CSS and anonymous edits

From: Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:33:22 +0100
Cc: "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
Message-Id: <CE441795-B039-4F1E-8FCE-3D5F1E671CCD@w3.org>
To: Taylor Costello <nottaylorcostello@gmail.com>
Thanks for the comments Taylor. I can definitely see why you'd want this stuff to be opened up; it would be nice to be able to trust everyone to just make updates to pretty much anything. It would sure make our job easier too ;-)

But I think we do need to exercise a bit of caution in these situations; yes, we can roll back changes, but we would rather limit the amount of changes that we have to keep rolling back. It cna get confusing, mistakes can be made. 

A better solution (for the short term anyway), which we are looking into already, is putting everything on github, so people can make changes and send us pull requests. This could be applied to pretty much everything, even template pages and stuff.

It certainly sounds worth checking out the Abuse Filter, and considering anonymous edits, to normal pages at least. Templates and stuff I wouldn't be so sure of.

Best,

Chris

On 15 Oct 2012, at 18:43, Taylor Costello <nottaylorcostello@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> I am hoping to ask to stop protecting templates now that the traffic has calmed down a little. I think anyone should have the ability to edit or see them. I also think the template CSS should be moved to the Common.css for admins to edit, here: http://docs.webplatform.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css
> 
> If anyone has any objections as to why the templates should remain protected, please tell me! I'm curious to hear your opinions of course, I would just like this project to be open to everyone and it's very hard for anyone to understand the wiki when they can't see the templates.
> 
> I have also heard several ideas on how the CSS should be handled, please note for this topic, I'm only talking about template CSS because it should be something that can be accessed easily.
> 
> Last topic, I want to open up anonymous edits on the wiki. Our Q&A has anonymous posting, but not our wiki! Let me just throw out there that anonymous editing is very easy to watch, any user can revert a bad edit. We also have AbuseFilters that will protect from obvious spam and tag edits for admins to look at. Any admin can add more AbuseFilters in the situation where we need to adjust to new spam methods. There are a ton of benefits to allowing anonymous wiki editing, and most of the negative argument being "to prevent spam".
> 
> You can check out the AbuseFilter here: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter
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