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Re: HTML in markup.

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:36:06 -0500
Message-ID: <50A938A6.40005@w3.org>
To: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com>
CC: Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me>, public-webplatform@w3.org
Hi, Chris-

On 11/18/12 5:53 AM, Chris Mills wrote:
> Agree with Doug.
>
> I think this is a bit of a red herring, and learning wiki markup is
> pretty trivial really. I on;y use HTML markup in situations where the
> wiki markup results in really crappy results. Like when dealing with
> nested list items.

What sort of problems with nested list items?

I've made a guide for creating lists in wikitext, in case that helps:
  http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/WPD:Style_Guide/Lists

Regards-
-Doug

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> On 16 Nov 2012, at 19:40, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Garbee-
>>
>> Actually, I have reservations about suggesting we use HTML markup.
>>
>> We've talked about going from wikitext to markdown, or even to an
>> HTML-based system.  Mixing HTML markup in there make automatic
>> conversion much, much harder.
>>
>> Regards- -Doug
>>
>> On 11/16/12 12:29 PM, Jonathan Garbee wrote:
>>> Since launch there has been some frustration about the markup
>>> being used.  I suggest we actually allow as much plain HTML
>>> markup as possible.  A list of permitted markup can be found on
>>> the MediaWiki site [1].  This would help clear up some confusion
>>> and help stop overloading the templates like what was brought up
>>> in another thread [2]. Also since most people editing will know
>>> HTML markup, they won't need to learn mediawiki markup to make
>>> basic edits (unless they want to deal with links, then we have an
>>> issue.)
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> -Garbee
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:HTML_in_wikitext#Permitted_HTML
>>>
>>>
[2]
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webplatform/2012Oct/0216.html
>>>
>>
>>
>
>>>
>
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