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Re: Deprecated/Non Standard Indications Within Listings

From: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 17:47:15 +0200
Message-ID: <CABc02_JK4SG1cWeSdQzA4N+fowPdsPU4jiA02w49_skt2poLrw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Mike Sierra <letmespellitoutforyou@gmail.com>
Cc: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com>, public-webplatform@w3.org, seb@desbenoit.net
Looks like we need http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConditionalShow in
order to implement your suggestion.

☆*PhistucK*



On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Mike Sierra <letmespellitoutforyou@gmail.com
> wrote:

> I would definitely present the nonstandard icon on the target page,
> not just in the links.
>
> One other suggestion, though: present various red editorial flags only
> if you're logged in to edit pages. Otherwise display a similar
> "unverified" icon (along perhaps with "what does this mean?" link) if
> certain flags are present that pertain to quality of content, as
> opposed to less important "needs examples" flags. Casual readers might
> otherwise be put off by the site's under-construction appearance.
>
> --Mike Sierra
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I increased the side padding by 2 pixels.
> > Are you sure the colors are fine? It seems kind of detached or seems to
> > stick out a little too much (or maybe it should, so people do not use non
> > standard/deprecated stuff).
> >
> > Should I also add a title to it? "This is a (Non Standard|Deprecated)
> > feature. Any use of this feature is discouraged."?
> >
> > Should a similar box show in the page of the non standard/deprecated
> feature
> > itself?
> >
> > ☆PhistucK
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Looks pretty good to me - nice and readable, fits well with the overall
> >> look of the page. Maybe just add about 2px of extra left and right
> padding
> >> to the boxes, to make it look more even on all sides
> >>
> >> Chris Mills
> >> Open standards evangelist and dev.opera.com editor, Opera Software
> >> Co-chair, web education community group, W3C
> >> Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design"
> >> (
> http://my.opera.com/chrismills/blog/2012/07/12/practical-css3-my-book-is-finally-published
> )
> >>
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> >>
> >> On 5 Dec 2012, at 09:43, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Can someone take a look at the indications and let me know whether the
> >> > color/box/design is fine?
> >> > http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Template:API_Listing_New
> >> >
> >> > You can see it next to "MSStream".
> >> >
> >> > ☆PhistucK
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> > From: Alex Komoroske <komoroske@google.com>
> >> > Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:45 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: Missing Essentials
> >> > To: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>
> >> > Cc: public-webplatform@w3.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 13. Indicate a method/property is non standard, deprecated and so on.
> >> > Add a few check boxes to the API method/property/object (and more...)
> >> > templates to indicate that it is non standard, deprecated,
> proprietary or
> >> > obsolete (supported only in Netscape 2, for example, or only on HTML
> 3) -
> >> > each of them should get a check box.
> >> > This information should show up on the property/method tables of the
> >> > "Applies to..." object. Ideally, anything marked as such would reside
> in a
> >> > separate section below everything that is standard/current, so users
> would
> >> > not be encouraged to use it.
> >> >
> >> > There's an ability to mark any reference article (including
> >> > Methods/Properties) as being standard/obsolete/non-standard, etc.
>  Making it
> >> > so that those would be pulled out in the summary tables on API Objects
> >> > should be relatively easy. Another good thing t o
> >> >
> >> > I gave it a shot. I created two test bed templates for this purpose -
> >> > http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Template:API_Listing_New
> >> > http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Template:Summary_Table_Body_New
> >> >
> >> > These look good!
> >> >
> >> > A few questions -
> >> > 1. How do you test template changes? I created new templates just for
> >> > the sake of experimentation, because I would not want to break all of
> the
> >> > template users while experimenting/making changes. Is there another
> way?
> >> >
> >> > I'm embarrassed to admit that what I've done up until now is just made
> >> > the changes on the live templates and quickly checked to make sure
> they
> >> > didn't obviously break anything. The way you've done it here is
> better for
> >> > non-trivial changes.
> >> >
> >> > 2. I added a #switch that searches for Non-Standard or Deprecated (I
> >> > could easily add more, if needed, like Obsolete, which I think should
> be
> >> > added to the Standardization_Status options) and adds a styled span
> (it
> >> > would be better if I used a class and added it to some global CSS).
> Does
> >> > that seem fine (the style could use some work, of course ;))?
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, this approach seems perfect.
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
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