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Re: Socializing the high level API during our F2F meeting in April

From: Ryan Sleevi <sleevi@google.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 09:43:41 -0700
Message-ID: <CACvaWva4rVb-Uim0L+QYS_83TELDeZqXKtJEHXEKDouLNP=NgQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>
Cc: GALINDO Virginie <Virginie.GALINDO@gemalto.com>, "public-webcrypto@w3.org" <public-webcrypto@w3.org>, "wseltzer@w3.org" <wseltzer@w3.org>
I think it would be helpful first to get use cases.

I don't think the way our meetings have been structured are conducive
towards trying to get external involvement or making valuable use of
their time. Our meetings often involve very vague discussions that
meander on, without making real progress.

Having a concrete set of use cases that say "These are the problems we
face", as an initial list, is a much more productive use of getting
feedback from external parties. As has been repeatedly mentioned, each
of the high level APIs you've mentioned attempt to solve different
problems, and with different tradeoffs, and unless you're expecting
the members of this WG to be experts in cryptography, then I would
suggest its better to first provide the use cases.

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org> wrote:
> On 04/02/2013 03:28 PM, GALINDO Virginie wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> As briefly mentioned in our call yesterday, I would like to get your view
> and interest for organizing a meeting open to the public to discuss the high
> level API.
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> The actual objective would be to have a conversation about
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> -          The other technology providing with high level API (NaCl, )
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> -          The use cases for a W3C high level API
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> -          The potential action plan in the Web Crypto WG
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> I'd like to see the following people, who have experience with high-level
> APIs, in attendance:
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> - Some Google folks from Keyczar (is Weiss still on it?)
> - Some NACL folks - Daniel J. Bernstein
> - Matthew Green
> - Is Emily Stark coming? If not, ideally, if he can spare the time, Dan
> Boneh or Mike Hamburg
>
> I think we should post the open invite on W3C blog and email to crypto
> mailing lists.
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> This meeting open to the public, may help the WG to get more people on board
> on this topic, as it was mentioned several time that we do not have the
> appropriate contributors. While being a short meeting, this would at least
> bring some interested people from the silicon valley if we are able to
> communicate correctly and send soon the invitations.
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> Taking the suggestion of Arun made on IRC, we could have this 2 hours
> conversation at the end of the first day, as a pre-social-event, to avoid
> taking time on our main discussions.
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> So I would like to get the view from the WG participants to have a 2 hours
> meeting on high level API, from 17:00 to 19:00 on the 23rd of April.
>
> Would you attend, contribute, invite people in your network to attend ? All
> comment, alternative suggestion are welcome.
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> Regards,
>
> Virginie
>
> Chairman of the Web Crypto WG
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