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Re: Proposal to move WebApps' tests to github

From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:50:01 -0400
Message-ID: <51432709.9090202@nokia.com>
To: ext Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org>, Kris Krueger <krisk@microsoft.com>, ext Odin Hørthe Omdal <odinho@opera.com>, ext Tobie Langel <tobie@w3.org>, Philippe Le Hégaret <plh@w3.org>
CC: "public-webapps-testsuite@w3.org" <public-webapps-testsuite@w3.org>
Hi All,

Sorry for the delayed response but I was waiting for a Green Light from 
PLH re the HTML test suite move and that now appears to be complete ...

Since WebApps has an agreed testing process that will need to be 
changed, I will start a WG-wide CfC to gather consensus on the test 
suite move to GH. Before I sent that CfC, a couple of quick questions ...

* Odin - is <http://www.w3.org/wiki/Webapps/Submitting_tests> still the 
new proposed process (to replace 
<http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Testing> and most of its subpages)? 
Do you need to make any updates before the WG is asked to approve it? 
(f.ex. it appears the repo name is no longer accurate)

* Who is going to do the work? Some set of: Tobie, Robin, Odin, Ms2ger?

* Is the expectation that each of WebApps' test suites will be a new 
directory at <https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests>? f.ex. 
<https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/WebStorage/>?

* Will the new hierarchy be flat or are the people doing the move going 
to create some type of section/id based subdirs?

* Where is the HTMLWG's documentation about this new process e.g. 
workflow, review, approval? (I presume we will want to reuse as much as 
practical.)

-Thanks, Art

On 2/7/13 3:36 AM, ext Robin Berjon wrote:
> On 06/02/2013 23:50 , Kris Krueger wrote:
>> HTML has moved though to be clear it has not provide a lot of new
>> 'test submitters' which was the primary goal.
>
> Well, to put this in perspective to the best of my knowledge we have 
> had zero external contributors in the five years since this group 
> started; and we had two in the month since the move. This without 
> having yet deployed any proper documentation or outreach. I reckon 
> it's actually looking tentatively good.
>
>> The migration is not
>> completed yet and we still have more infrastructure work to get done
>> to get the HTML Test suite back to where it was 'pre-move'.
>
> I beg to differ. As someone who actually has to work with the 
> repository, the situation we have is substantially better than 
> pre-move. For instance, we have processed more submissions backlog 
> since the move than ever before.
>
>> * We don't have a mechanism in place yet to
>> sync and publish content from github -> www.w3c-test.org
>
> I'm sorry, but both branches are mirrored there:
>
>     http://w3c-test.org/html-testsuite/
>
>
>> * It's not clear how exactly this will work when you have a 'fork'
>
> Do you mean when someone creates their own fork? Well, that just 
> works. I'm not sure what you mean.
>
>> * php file submission/enabling needs to be completed
>
> Actually, the pull request review process means that we can just 
> review whatever PHP code is added at submission time, and don't need 
> the whole ad hoc mechanics that hg required us to have in order to 
> review PHP from committers. So we're also already better off in this 
> regard as well.
>
>> One issue did come up which is something we have not had to deal with
>> CVS/Hg on w3c sites is getting access blocked. See ->
>> http://gigaom.com/2013/01/21/github-is-blocked-in-china/
>
> That's actually not true: *.w3.org sites have been blocked in China 
> before. GH was blocked temporarily, and then unblocked, just like it 
> happened to us.
>
Received on Friday, 15 March 2013 13:51:02 UTC

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