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Re: Network API editor's draft

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:07:36 +0000 (UTC)
To: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Cc: web API <public-webapi@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0703072202260.18489@dhalsim.dreamhost.com>

On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
> > 
> > Note that the WHATWG version of this draft is in heavy flux; there are 
> > hundreds of outstanding comments on it. Is the intent that this 
> > specification replace the WHATWG version?
> Hmm. It is intended to be used by a similar audience. There is no 
> compulsion on the WHAT-WG to remove their version at any given time, and 
> maybe keeping it for now would motivate people to actually work on the 
> spec.

Well, the two specs are incompatible (they define the same thing, so any 
differences between the two would be a problem to someone implementing 
both). So eventually, one has to go. I'd assume the intent is to 
eventually drop the WHATWG one, but, well, see my comments about Window.

> > (I am reluctant to just remove the WHATWG part of the text because 
> > development on the last specification for which I did that -- the 
> > Window spec -- has now ground to a halt and left me with significant 
> > extra work, as I now have to move the definitions back to HTML5 to 
> > deal with the more complicated cases which the Windows spec says are 
> > out of scope.)
> Yes. I am sorry that the editors of that spec have slowed down. As you 
> are aware, most spec editors are squeezing it in with other 
> responsibilities, which sometimes has the unfortunate result that things 
> don't move as fast as hoped.

Oh I'm not complaining, and I fully understand Maciej's position and do 
not at all blame him. I'm just making an observation, to explain my 
reluctance to move the specs around too quickly.

> > Could you give an exact list of the changes between the WHATWG draft 
> > and this one? (Ideally to the level of individual word and markup 
> > changes?)
> No, I can't, sorry. Perhaps Gorm has time to give some reasonable level 
> of detail. The summary I can provide is "it is the TCP connection stuff 
> out of the spec".

I think we will need to have very, very close cooperation (to the level of 
word-smithing and markup change diffs) if we want to work together on 
this. If you could get such a list of changes that would be really 
helpful. It would be quite a problem if we tried to keep them in sync but 
in a year four that the specs have differences in the fundamental 

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