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Re: What a prior art product must do

From: Jake Robb <jakerobb@mac.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 00:09:24 -0400
To: W3C Public Web Plugins List <public-web-plugins@w3.org>
Message-ID: <BB76ED34.E40B%jakerobb@mac.com>

The Java Virtual Machine and the Common Language Runtime would count as
applications, which must be loaded in order for Java and .NET code to run.
I think that voids your loophole.

Assuming that the patent holds (which I don't think it will), I fear most
for Flash.  It's everywhere, and its home is really in the browser.  True,
you can download it and run the .SWF file externally (the free QuickTime
Player can do it, for example), but that seems to defeat the point.  Why not
just download an application?  If the argument is cross-platform capability,
then why not use Java?  It's a more powerful language.  Anyway, the point is
that Flash will likely die if this patent holds.  I think Flash is a
wonderful addition to the web, and don't want it to die.

-Jake


SerpentMage (Christian Gross) wrote:

> 
> Had a quick email with Richard on this one...  Here is a question I had...
> 
> Richard M. Smith wrote:
> 
>> utilized by said browser to identify and locate an executable
>> application external to the first distributed hypermedia document, and
>> wherein said embed text format is parsed by said browser to
>>  
>> 
> Is the loophole not .NET and Java here?
> 
> You load up a document, fine, run the app fine, find an external
> reference and then KICK OFF AN EXECUTABLE.
> 
> If the browser is written in pure .NET or pure Java and the object that
> is kicked off is pure .NET and pure Java then it is not an executable
> application.  Why?  Because Java and .NET do not posses the concept of
> an executable.  Two Java or .NET "executables" can run in the same
> process.  (That is why people have to be careful with statics since one
> app can reference the static of another app.)
> 
> 
> Christian Gross
> 
> 
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