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Re: rewrite of section 4

From: <Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:42:52 +0000
To: <robin@berjon.com>
CC: <Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com>, <jean-claude.dufourd@telecom-paristech.fr>, <public-web-intents@w3.org>
Message-ID: <507ECEB8-2E1B-4986-AB62-CBFF3795567F@nokia.com>
Viewing this from the point of view of defining conformance targets is very useful, thanks for the good point Robin.

Said another way, we are going to have to create test cases and demonstrate interop so it is necessary to be very clear on how this is to be done.

regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia



On Jun 20, 2012, at 8:13 AM, ext Robin Berjon wrote:

> Hi Jean-Claude,
> 
> On Jun 7, 2012, at 18:15 , Jean-Claude Dufourd wrote:
>> Here is a rewrite of section 4 (before 4.1), in an attempt to make more concrete my comments on the current state of the spec and its single focus on the UA:
>> http://perso.enst.fr/~dufourd/wia_integrated.htm
> 
> I'd earmarked this for later reading since you'd mentioned it as being important from a "Web architecture" point of view.
> 
> Having looked at this more closely, I am unconvinced as to the Web Intents Agent versus User Agent distinction that you are creating. I fully understand the value of potentially having the UA delegate part of intents handling (as well as many other things) to another service, be it the OS, a local network tier, a Weave service, etc. but that is totally immaterial. All of that processing happens in a black box. Whether a UA delegates its Intents handling to a third party or not, the conformance product is still the UA.
> 
> From a Web architecture point of view, it has long been the accepted wisdom that how a UA is split does not matter in the least. For instance, browsers like Opera Mini or Kindle Silk are considered to be full-fledged UAs despite most of their processing taking place on a remote server.
> 
> I find that creating the WIA/UA distinction adds confusion to the text, while not at all helping with conformance. So I'd rather we not go there. That distinction may however have its place in a document describing a specific way of effecting such a split, e.g. perhaps one of the webinos drafts if applicable.
> 
> -- 
> Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ - @robinberjon
> 
> 
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