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Re: [profile] Profile spec title

From: Scott Wilson <scott.bradley.wilson@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:52:50 +0000
Cc: Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com>, Jan Lindquist <jan.lindquist@ericsson.com>, "Vickers, Mark" <Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com>, "public-web-and-tv@w3.org WG" <public-web-and-tv@w3.org>
Message-Id: <AFCE5A2C-A1C4-4490-B430-46ACABAC2707@gmail.com>
To: Masahito Kawamori <masahito.kawamori@ties.itu.int>

On 8 Feb 2012, at 10:25, Masahito Kawamori wrote:

> Giuseppe, all
> 
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
> [snip]
>> 
>> Having read all the comments so far I still think the best compromise
>> between different opinions is
>> 
>> 
>> "Web and TV profile"
>> Guidelines for integration of interactive video services in a browser-based
>> environment
> 
> I agree.  (but then again, the question may remain, "hasn't that been
> the intention of HTML5 <video>?". Well, it is ok for the time being,
> as a straw man, at least.)
> 

Yes... for me the spec is more like a HTML5 profile for web applications on CE devices than anything to do with video services.

>> 
>> possible variation
>> 
>> "WebTV profile"
>> 
>> Guidelines for integration of interactive video services in a browser-based
>> environment
> 
> Would not probably work, as pointed out by Yusuke.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Masahito
> 
> 
>> /g
>> 
>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> mav
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jan Lindquist wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> The profile is not only about HTML5 but other W3c standards so it would
>>>> be misleading to have HTML5 in the title. In the spirit of the IG how about
>>>> "web and TV profile". The name of the profile is not as critical as knowing
>>>> the breadth of the areas it should cover. This profile may live for a while
>>>> and it in the context of the industry attempt to influence the work in W3C
>>>> with a clear list of specs that are being used and how they may be used. It
>>>> will become a reference point by other standard groups. By using the same
>>>> name as the IG it can help see the relationship.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> JanL
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Vickers, Mark [mailto:Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com]
>>>>> Sent: den 7 februari 2012 15:24
>>>>> To: Giuseppe Pascale
>>>>> Cc: public-web-and-tv@w3.org WG
>>>>> Subject: Re: [profile] Profile spec title
>>>>> 
>>>>> How about "HTML5 Video Services Profile"?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Giuseppe Pascale wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:26:40 +0100, Vickers, Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> <Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 5. Title: The goal for me is a profile of HTML5 for video
>>>>> 
>>>>> services. There are two differences with "Web&TV Profile".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - I want to include HTML5 in the title because this is
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTML5-related
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and HTM5-centric
>>>>>>> - I don't like including "TV". This continues to cause
>>>>> 
>>>>> confusion. It is clearer to describe an HTML5 profile for
>>>>> video services.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't have strong opinions on the title but I would note
>>>>> 
>>>>> the following:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - A title should be short ( the subtitle explains a bit
>>>>> 
>>>>> more what we are doing).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - I've tried to use the word "TV services" in the subtitle that is
>>>>>> hopefully a bit less confusing (or maybe not?). I have defined this
>>>>>> term as
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "For the purposes of this document a TV service is a
>>>>> 
>>>>> commercial video service that may include elements of
>>>>> interactivity and that provides a coherent user experience.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - while this profile is html5 based this is not only about
>>>>> 
>>>>> html5. I'm not against highlighting the HTML5 centric
>>>>> approach but I wouldn't call this "an html5 profile".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So in short: I'm fine with your comments but I cannot come
>>>>> 
>>>>> up with a better title/subtitle. Suggestions are welcome.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /g
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> See you on the call.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> mav
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:15 AM, Giuseppe Pascale wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> One note: the zakim bridge is overbooked.
>>>>>>>> So just in case we see that people have problem dialing
>>>>> 
>>>>> in (in such
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> case please login on IRC and let us know) I set-up this
>>>>> 
>>>>> Opera bridge.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> NOTE: ONLY TO BE USED IF WE SEE THAT ZAKIM DOESN'T WORK
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Phone bridge details:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Conference ID:            33909
>>>>>>>> Start Date and Time:      Monday 06.02.2012 17:00:00 CET/CEST
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bridge Numbers:
>>>>>>>> Norway                           +47 23 69 26 03
>>>>>>>> USA                                +1 800 201 4229 (Toll-Free)
>>>>>>>> Poland (Wroclaw)                +48 71 719 6099
>>>>>>>> Poland (Warsaw)                 +48 22 262 0799
>>>>>>>> Japan                             +81 3 5435 8394
>>>>>>>> Russia                            +7 812 448 7876
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Conference Name:          tv profile
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Please contact SysAdmin at +47 23 69 33 60 for assistance.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> /g
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:06:15 +0100, Giuseppe Pascale
>>>>> 
>>>>> <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here the call details for todays call
>>>>>>>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Telco)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Schedule: Monday, 16:00Z (=8:00 Pacific, 11:00 Eastern, 17:00
>>>>>>>>> Europe, 01:00 Korea/Japan)
>>>>>>>>> Phone: US: +1 617 761 6200 or SIP: zakim@voip.w3.org Conference
>>>>>>>>> Code: 26632 IRC channel: #webtv
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> And here the Agenda for todays call:
>>>>>>>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Agenda_Telco_6/2/2012)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> * Review of Charter
>>>>>>>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Charter)
>>>>>>>>> * Call schedule
>>>>>>>>> * TF tools (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile)
>>>>>>>>> * Process
>>>>>>>>> * Initial feedbacks on the draft
>>>>>>>>> (http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webtv/raw-file/tip/tvprofile/tv.html)
>>>>>>>>> * AOB
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> /g
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:00:59 +0100, Giuseppe Pascale
>>>>> 
>>>>> <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> the poll [1] is now closed and the winner is...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Monday, February 6, 2012 4:00 PM - 5:00 PM UTC
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In this first call we will discuss the scope of the TV
>>>>> 
>>>>> profile work, how do we want the group to be organized and
>>>>> timeline (if any).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If you have any other topic you want to add to the
>>>>> 
>>>>> agenda let me know.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'll send around call details ASAP.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://doodle.com/h6rfnkrqyi3uinpi
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Giuseppe Pascale
>>>>>>>> TV & Connected Devices
>>>>>>>> Opera Software
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Giuseppe Pascale
>>>>>> TV & Connected Devices
>>>>>> Opera Software
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Giuseppe Pascale
>> TV & Connected Devices
>> Opera Software
>> 
> 
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