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Re: 1.2.4 Action item

From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:01:16 -0500
To: Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Alex Li <alli@microsoft.com>, Peter Korn <peter.korn@oracle.com>, "public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org" <public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>
Message-id: <54477592-F860-47C5-BC37-82B7AC67AE2C@trace.wisc.edu>
see the results from the WCAG working group -- that added Alex's text basically into the Understanding WCAG 2.0 INTENT section.

Does that address this issue?


Gregg
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On Jun 14, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Andi Snow-Weaver wrote:

> Thanks Peter.
> 
> Alex, 
> 
> I have pasted this onto the Google site as a proposal from you. We'll get it on the next survey.
> 
> Andi
> 
> 
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> <graycol.gif>Alex Li ---06/14/2012 03:10:47 PM---Hi Peter, I see your point.  The proposed edit works for me.
> 
> From:	Alex Li <alli@microsoft.com>
> To:	Peter Korn <peter.korn@oracle.com>
> Cc:	Andi Snow-Weaver/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, "public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org" <public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>
> Date:	06/14/2012 03:10 PM
> Subject:	RE: 1.2.4 Action item
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Peter,
> I see your point.  The proposed edit works for me.
> All best,
> Alex
>  
> From: Peter Korn [mailto:peter.korn@oracle.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:02 PM
> To: Alex Li
> Cc: Andi Snow-Weaver; public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org
> Subject: Re: 1.2.4 Action item
>  
> Alex,
> 
> I agree with Andi.  I think the core of the problem is the word/concept "responsible" in your text, which speaks to policy (vs. focusing on technical capabilities & scope).
> 
> Here's an attempted rephrasing:
> Note: while audio communications between two or more individuals is "live audio content", such content is user generated and falls outside the scope of the intent of this Success Criterion - that "real-time presentations" be captioned.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter
> 
> On 6/14/2012 12:15 PM, Alex Li wrote: 
> Andi,
> It is not clear to me how the text crosses to policy statement versus a note when applying the WCAG outside of intended context.  It sounds like a practical set of note to help people figure out how to delineate who can realistically take control of which portion in meeting an SC. I understand that we are all in new territory here and would be glad to adjust.  In any case, a clearer set of rules would be helpful.  
> All best,
> Alex
>  
> From: Andi Snow-Weaver [mailto:andisnow@us.ibm.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 8:46 AM
> To: Alex Li
> Cc: public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org
> Subject: Re: 1.2.4 Action item
>  
> Alex,
> 
> This seems like a policy statement which would be out of scope for WCAG?
> 
> Andi 
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> <graycol.gif>Alex Li ---06/12/2012 09:19:24 AM---Here's my note: Call participants are content providers for call functionality between two or more p
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> From: Alex Li <alli@microsoft.com>
> To: "public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org" <public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>
> Date: 06/12/2012 09:19 AM
> Subject: 1.2.4 Action item
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> 
> 
> 
> Here’s my note:
> Call participants are content providers for call functionality between two or more people.  Thus, the participants are responsible for arranging captions where appropriate.  This SC does not imply that all calls require captioning or rely services regardless of needs.
> 
> Alex Li
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