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Re: 1.2.4 Action item

From: Peter Korn <peter.korn@oracle.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:09:36 -0700
Message-ID: <4FDA7D40.1060204@oracle.com>
To: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
CC: Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com>, Alex Li <alli@microsoft.com>, "public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org" <public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>
I believe it does.  Alex?


Peter

On 6/14/2012 5:01 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:
> see the results from the WCAG working group -- that added Alex's text 
> basically into the Understanding WCAG 2.0 INTENT section.
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> Does that address this issue?
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> On Jun 14, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Andi Snow-Weaver wrote:
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>> Thanks Peter.
>>
>> Alex,
>>
>> I have pasted this onto the Google site as a proposal from you. We'll 
>> get it on the next survey.
>>
>> Andi
>>
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>> <graycol.gif>Alex Li ---06/14/2012 03:10:47 PM---Hi Peter, I see your 
>> point.  The proposed edit works for me.
>>
>> From: Alex Li <alli@microsoft.com <mailto:alli@microsoft.com>>
>> To: Peter Korn <peter.korn@oracle.com <mailto:peter.korn@oracle.com>>
>> Cc: Andi Snow-Weaver/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, "public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org 
>> <mailto:public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>" <public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org 
>> <mailto:public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>>
>> Date: 06/14/2012 03:10 PM
>> Subject: RE: 1.2.4 Action item
>>
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>> Hi Peter,
>> I see your point.  The proposed edit works for me.
>> All best,
>> Alex
>>
>> *From:* Peter Korn [mailto:peter.korn@oracle.com] *
>> Sent:* Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:02 PM*
>> To:* Alex Li*
>> Cc:* Andi Snow-Weaver; public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org 
>> <mailto:public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>*
>> Subject:* Re: 1.2.4 Action item
>>
>> Alex,
>>
>> I agree with Andi.  I think the core of the problem is the 
>> word/concept "responsible" in your text, which speaks to policy (vs. 
>> focusing on technical capabilities & scope).
>>
>> Here's an attempted rephrasing:
>> Note: while audio communications between two or more individuals is 
>> "live audio content", such content is user generated and falls 
>> outside the scope of the intent of this Success Criterion - that 
>> "real-time presentations" be captioned.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 6/14/2012 12:15 PM, Alex Li wrote:
>> Andi,
>> It is not clear to me how the text crosses to policy statement versus 
>> a note when applying the WCAG outside of intended context.  It sounds 
>> like a practical set of note to help people figure out how to 
>> delineate who can realistically take control of which portion in 
>> meeting an SC. I understand that we are all in new territory here and 
>> would be glad to adjust.  In any case, a clearer set of rules would 
>> be helpful.
>> All best,
>> Alex
>>
>> *From:* Andi Snow-Weaver [_mailto:andisnow@us.ibm.com_] *
>> Sent:* Thursday, June 14, 2012 8:46 AM*
>> To:* Alex Li*
>> Cc:*_public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org_ <mailto:public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>*
>> Subject:* Re: 1.2.4 Action item
>>
>> Alex,
>>
>> This seems like a policy statement which would be out of scope for WCAG?
>>
>> Andi
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>>     *Andi Snow-Weaver*
>>     Accessibility Standards Program Manager
>>     Human Ability & Accessibility Center
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>>     Tel: +1-720-663-2789
>>     Email: _andisnow@us.ibm.com_ <mailto:andisnow@us.ibm.com> 
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>> <graycol.gif>Alex Li ---06/12/2012 09:19:24 AM---Here's my note: Call 
>> participants are content providers for call functionality between two 
>> or more p
>>
>> From: Alex Li <_alli@microsoft.com_ <mailto:alli@microsoft.com>>
>> To: "_public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org_ <mailto:public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>" 
>> <_public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org_ <mailto:public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>>
>> Date: 06/12/2012 09:19 AM
>> Subject: 1.2.4 Action item
>>
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>> Here’s my note:
>> Call participants are content providers for call functionality 
>> between two or more people.  Thus, the participants are responsible 
>> for arranging captions where appropriate.  This SC does not imply 
>> that all calls require captioning or rely services regardless of needs.
>>
>> Alex Li
>> Senior Strategist
>> Microsoft Trustworthy Computing Group
>> email: _alli@microsoft.com_ <mailto:alli@microsoft.com>
>> phone: +1 (425)538-7984
>> mobile: +1 (206) 778-4202_
>> __Microsoft Corporation_ <http://microsoft.com/>
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