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Re: Antw: AW: Easy to Read Call

From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 08:49:07 +0200
Message-ID: <5031DDE3.7020507@w3.org>
To: Klaus Miesenberger <Klaus.Miesenberger@jku.at>, Kerstin Matausch <Kerstin.Matausch@ki-i.at>
CC: RDWG <public-wai-rd@w3.org>, Andrea Petz <Andrea.Petz@jku.at>, Birgit.Peboeck@ki-i.at
Hi Klaus, Kerstin,

Good point! I think we should have a section to discuss on "Plain 
Language" versus "Easy to Read" on the main topic page:
  - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Easy_to_Read>

See for example how we have additional background in the Metrics [1] and 
Text Customization [2] topics, to which we point to from the main 
symposium pages for these topics [3,4]:
  [1] <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Benchmarking_Web_Accessibility_Metrics>
  [2] <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Text_Customization>
  [3] <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2011/metrics/>
  [4] <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2012/text-customization/>

Best,
   Shadi


On 20.8.2012 07:57, Klaus Miesenberger wrote:
> Thanks Kerstin(g),
>
> I updated.
>
> Regarding plane language I think this is exactly the purpose of the
> call: to provoke and invite to present such work. I therefore propose:
> a) Making this comparison part of the core topic ("Comparative studies
> of guidelines and standards, e.g. of Easy to Read and "plain language")
> b) Moving the aspect D4All versus specialised pages down to the
> "beyond" section ("Guidance for practice, e.g. discussing Easy to Read
> as an aspect of mainstream "design for all" (e.g. use of "plain
> language") versus specialised or individualised Easy to Read adaptations
> (on demand)")
>
> Klaus
>
>
> a.Univ.Prof.Dr. Klaus Miesenberger
> University of Linz, Institut Integriert Studieren
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>
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> AAATE: www.aaate.net
> eAccess+ The eAccessibility newtork: www.eaccessplus.eu
> Austrian Computer Society, OCG: www.ocg.at/
>>>> Kerstin Matausch <Kerstin.Matausch@ki-i.at> 17.08.2012 16:45 >>>
>
> Hi Klaus,
> thank you for your ongoing work on the topic and the update.
> Last but hopefully not least some more notes:
> Some small spelling mistakes: *plain language* instead of *plane
> language*; *Kerstin* instead of *Kersting* (although I like it. It
> sounds funny)
> ad 2) I agree with you on primarily focusing *the basics* in order to
> identify key aspects of Easy to Read and additionally to invite
> contributions to the broader scope of topics.
> Ad 3) *Plain language* would surely be of interest and would broaden
> the focus. I*m unsure how far you wish that at the moment.
> The concept of plain language asks for more developed skills in reading
> and comprehension such as i.e. educationally deprived people, and people
> with rather low language skills. So it would meet the targeted user
> groups and extend them.
> Plain language additionally asks for a number of different guidelines
> and designs in comparison to Easy to Read.
> A distinction between these two concepts would be necessary and could
> be integrated. Again, I*m unsure how far you plan this at the moment.
> Best,
> Kerstin
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> Von: Klaus Miesenberger [mailto:Klaus.Miesenberger@jku.at]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 17. August 2012 11:50
> An: RDWG
> Cc: Andrea Petz; Birgit Peböck; Kerstin Matausch
> Betreff: Easy to Read Call
>
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
>
> many thanks to those providing feedback in the telco and via email. I
> updated the page and I do hope that I took all issues into account.
>
>
> Please have a look at the updated version at
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Topic_4_pre-call#List_of_Topics
>
>
> The main edits have been:
>
> 1) Following the format of topic 3 (TC): now three versions (call/main
> page/email)
>
> 2) There were two comments which in my opinion are contradicting to a
> certain extent:
>
> a) the broad and comprehenisive description of the field has been
> appriciated
>
> b) the need to focus the symposium was expressed
>
> Both are valuable and therefore I propose to focus the symposium on the
> 4 main objectives discussed, but also invite contributions to the
> broader scope of topics. Perhaps this is an acceptable solution.
>
> 3) The concept and term "plane language" is at least mentioned (Topic
> 4. Guidelines and Standards) - perhaps we should make it more visible?
>
> 4) "Easy to Read on the Web" is now used as the title of the Symposium.
> There was a mixture of this and other titles, e.g. Easy to Read language
> or East to Read content. This could be discussed but I think it is a
> minor issue.
>
> 5) Step by step the SC lists more names - volunteers from the RDWG
> still welcome!
>
>
> And any feedback very much appriciated.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Klaus
>
>
>
> a.Univ.Prof.Dr. Klaus Miesenberger
> University of Linz, Institut Integriert Studieren
> Altenbergerstrasse 69, A-4040 Linz
> klaus.miesenberger@jku.at, http://www.integriert-studieren.jku.at/
> Tel: +43-732-2468-3751 Fax: ...-23751
> International Conference on Computers Helping People with Special
> Needs, ICCHP: http://www.icchp.org
> International Camps on Computers&Communication, ICC:
> http://www.icc-camp.info/
>
> Association for the Advancement for Assistive Technology in Europe,
> AAATE: www.aaate.net
>
> eAccess+ The eAccessibility newtork: www.eaccessplus.eu
>
> Austrian Computer Society, OCG: www.ocg.at/
>

-- 
Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
Activity Lead, W3C/WAI International Program Office
Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG)
Research and Development Working Group (RDWG)
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